Here we go. Everyone knows finals are always barn-burners as teams attack-attack-attack, so we're in for a 4-3 game at least. Wait - what? Game is on ESPN, and actual kick time is . . . sometime after that. As always, keep it friendly here in the neutral PBP thread.
Disappointingly, while last year I watched the game on a TV in LAX's Bradley International terminal, this year I will only get to see the first half or so from SeaTac airport. Stupid MLS moving the start time up several hours this year
Here's a big info dump on your MLS Cup referee Allen Chapman. Enjoy. Code: Allen CHAPMAN REGULAR SEASON: 108 games, 3.67 Y/g, 24 R (0.22/g) HOME: 1.68 Y/g, 12 R (0.11/g) AWAY: 1.99 Y/g, 12 R (0.11/g) HOME RECORD: 65 W - 25 D - 18 L (2.037 PPG) PLAYOFFS: 6 games, 3.33 Y/g, 0 R HOME: 1.67 Y/g, 0 R AWAY: 1.67 Y/g, 0 R HOME RECORD: 2 W - 3 D - 1 L 2017 GAMES: 3/4 RSL 0 - 0 TOR Y: 7 R: 0 3/18 POR 4 - 2 HOU Y: 6 R: 0 4/1 VAN 4 - 2 LA Y: 3 R: 0 4/9 SKC 3 - 1 COL Y: 3 R: 0 4/22 HOU 2 - 0 SJ Y: 5 R: 0 4/29 SEA 3 - 3 NE Y: 2 R: 0 5/3 SKC 2 - 0 NY Y: 5 R: 0 5/13 TOR 3 - 2 MIN Y: 1 R: 0 5/20 ATL 4 - 1 HOU Y: 3 R: 0 5/31 ORL 2 - 0 DC Y: 4 R: 0 6/18 PHI 0 - 2 NY Y: 3 R: 1 (D. Jones-SFP) 7/1 SJ 2 - 1 LA Y: 3 R: 1 (J. Van Damme-2CT) 7/22 NYC 2 - 1 CHI Y: 5 R: 1 (Y. Herrera-2CT) 7/29 ATL 1 - 1 ORL Y: 4 R: 0 8/5 DC 1 - 1 TOR Y: 3 R: 1 (L. Sam-SFP) 8/18 POR 2 - 0 NY Y: 4 R: 1 (L. Mabiala-DGF) 8/26 CLB 2 - 1 DAL Y: 2 R: 0 9/9 VAN 3 - 2 RSL Y: 3 R: 0 9/23 NYC 1 - 1 HOU Y: 0 R: 0 9/30 TOR 4 - 2 NY Y: 2 R: 0 10/15 CHI 3 - 2 PHI Y: 1 R: 0 10/22 POR 2 - 1 VAN Y: 6 R: 0 10/26 KNOCKOUT ROUND ATL 0 - 0 CLB Y: 2 R: 0 2017 REGULAR SEASON: 22 games, 3.41 Y/g, 5 R (0.23/g) HOME: 1.68 Y/g, 4 R (0.18/g) AWAY: 1.73 Y/g, 1 R (0.05/g) HOME RECORD: 16 W - 5 D - 1 L (2.409 PPG) 2017 PLAYOFFS: 1 game, 2.00 Y/g, 0 R HOME: 0.00 Y/g, 0 R AWAY: 2.00 Y/g, 0 R HOME RECORD: 0 W - 1 D - 0 L TORONTO GAMES: 9/1/2012 SKC 2 - 1 TOR Y: 2 R: 0 9/21/2013 TOR 1 - 2 SKC Y: 4 R: 1 (S. Caldwell-SFP) 7/16/2014 TOR 1 - 1 VAN Y: 5 R: 0 6/20/2015 TOR 0 - 2 NYC Y: 8 R: 0 3/6/2016 NY 0 - 2 TOR Y: 4 R: 0 5/28/2016 NY 3 - 0 TOR Y: 3 R: 1 (G. Veron-SFP) 7/31/2016 TOR 3 - 0 CLB Y: 2 R: 0 3/4/2017 RSL 0 - 0 TOR Y: 7 R: 0 5/13/2017 TOR 3 - 2 MIN Y: 1 R: 0 8/5/2017 DC 1 - 1 TOR Y: 3 R: 1 (L. Sam-SFP) 9/30/2017 TOR 4 - 2 NY Y: 2 R: 0 TORONTO ALL-TIME: 11 g, 3.73 Y/g, 3 R (0.27/g) TORONTO ONLY: 1.82 Y/g, 1 R (0.09/g) OPPONENTS: 1.91 Y/g, 2 R (0.18/g) TORONTO RECORD: 4 W - 3 D - 4 L (1.364 PPG) TORONTO 2017: 4 g, 3.25 Y/g, 1 R (0.25/g) TORONTO ONLY: 2.00 Y/g, 0 R OPPONENTS: 1.25 Y/g, 1 R (0.25/g) TORONTO RECORD: 2 W - 2 D - 0 L (2.000 PPG) SEATTLE GAMES: 7/3/2013 SEA 2 - 0 DC Y: 3 R: 0 9/13/2013 SEA 2 - 0 RSL Y: 7 R: 0 3/29/2014 SEA 1 - 2 CLB Y: 3 R: 1 (D. Traore-DGF) 11/2/2014 WESTERN CONFERENCE SEMIFINAL DAL 1 - 1 SEA Y: 1 R: 0 7/11/2015 CHI 1 - 0 SEA Y: 3 R: 0 8/7/2016 ORL 1 - 3 SEA Y: 7 R: 0 4/29/2017 SEA 3 - 3 NE Y: 2 R: 0 SEATTLE ALL-TIME: 7 g, 3.71 Y/g, 1 R (0.14/g) SEATTLE ONLY: 1.71 Y/g, 1 R (0.14/g) OPPONENTS: 2.00 Y/g, 0 R SEATTLE RECORD (REG SEASON): 3 W - 1 D - 2 L (1.667 PPG) SEATTLE RECORD (PLAYOFFS): 0 W - 1 D - 0 L SEATTLE 2017: 1 g, 2.00 Y/g, 0 R SEATTLE ONLY: 2.00 Y/g, 0 R OPPONENTS: 0.00 Y/g, 0 R SEATTLE RECORD: 0 W - 1 D - 0 L (1.000 PPG)
Game time temperature forecast to be about...28 degrees, or -2 Celsius. Does it not occur to ANYBODY to move the game indoors? You know, into that nice big stadium with the dome on it? Or are we going to get a second helping of ice-cold garbage?
Will Don Garber's television "metrics" even reach the level of the NHL regular season games scheduled for this weekend?
Goals. I just want goals and exciting play. No "10 behind the ball, backpasses and square passes only" BS. Don't really care who wins
Why can't it be Maple Syrup-Flavoured Champagne served with Canadian Bacon and Old Cheddar? Nobody wants it on turf and the field has underground heating elements. I'm perfectly willing to go and watch in the cold, you just have to dress for the weather. At least it will be warmer than last year. And today the temperature is 10C.
Nobody wants it on turf Oh, please. It's got to be better than playing on a friggin' skating rink. and the field has underground heating elements. They have "heating elements" in the stands too, pal? I'm perfectly willing to go and watch in the cold, you just have to dress for the weather. OK, tough guy, you do that. Hopefully, they'll be able to chisel you out of your seat by midnight. I hope it's a terrible game that forces everyone to regret the error of their ways. It will be, but MLS never changes everything, because they're always right. Play the biggest game of the year in a neutral site, where's the temperature's actually above freezing? Naah! That's not the way they do in Europe!
Last year it was -10C at kickoff and about -13C by the end, plus wind. I was in 220 getting my face frozen and didn't care. Neither did anyone else.
Last year it was -10C at kickoff and about -13C by the end, plus wind. I was in 220 getting my face frozen and didn't care. Neither did anyone else. Good on you, but this situation doesn't mean, "You're rough and tough!". It means, "The league you root for is a joke!".
Wasn't claiming to be "rough and tough". Just pointing out that none of the people who are actually there will likely care about it as much as you seem to.
Great movie! Perhaps the best and most honest thing MM has ever done. Taped it last night while watching Do The Right Thing and going down a Bill Nunn rabbit hole. Thx, Jay!