MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019.

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The next MLS coach to get fired will be...

Poll closed Jul 4, 2019.
  1. Adrian Heath

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
  2. Alan Koch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Anthony Hudson

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Ben Olsen

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Brad Friedel

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Brian Schmetzer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Domenec Torrent

    11 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. Frank de Boer

    10 vote(s)
    12.7%
  9. Giovanni Savarese

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Greg Vanney

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Guillermo Barros Schelotto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. James O'Connor

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  13. Jim Curtin

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  14. Luchi Gonzalez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Marc Dos Santos

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matias Almeyda

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  17. Mike Petke

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  18. Remi Garde

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  19. Veljko Paunovic

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  20. Wilmer Cabrera

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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  2. xbhaskarx

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  3. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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  4. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frank de Boer more like De BORE...He takes over the reigning MLS champs (70 goals last season) and they're unable to score a goal against wooden spoon favorites FC Cincy in the final 88 minutes or so, despite playing at home in front of 70k... and despite 67% possession they only managed 10 shots against a defense that allowed 24 last week.

    The last two times Atlanta needed a goal, instead of Andrew Carleton or Romario Williams, both times he brought on an almost 36 year old defensive midfielder who has averaged 1G 1A over the last three MLS seasons. This time they needed a late goal and instead of Tito Villalba he brought on... Kevin Kratz.


    No one could have seen this coming...


     
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  5. xbhaskarx

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  6. xbhaskarx

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  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
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    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soooo...................when do the Jose to Atlanta rumors start? :whistling:
     
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  8. xbhaskarx

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    United States
    #183 xbhaskarx, Mar 10, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2019
    Bold move from FDB blaming the fans for being “spoiled” and setting the bar at “have a terrible season and miss the playoffs”...

    And of course Toronto had a ton of injuries by the end of their run (they had no healthy CBs, Bradley was starting at CB) and came within a penalty shootout of winning CCL, which is a bit different from crashing out against the first Mexican team you face!






    Pretty sure they weren’t booing the *players* lol
     
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  9. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I give him 3 games tops.
     
  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's already coached 4 games though ;):whistling:
     
  11. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3 more games from today.
     
  12. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    If Monterrey embarrasses them in the dome this week he may not make it to the weekend.
     
  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They play Philly next weekend. That's a sure fire home win for Atlanta. Even IF, and that's a colossal IF, they manage to not win against Philly he'll still get until the end of March at the least.
     
  14. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Beware the Ides of March. I heard that somewhere.
     
  15. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


     
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  16. xbhaskarx

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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    At least everyone seems to agree they are boring

    1104875249986883585 is not a valid tweet id


     
  17. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is awesome. Thank you.
     
  18. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doyle's take here is BS in my opinion, Vieira didn't have half the talent to work with that De Boer does. ATL won the ********ing league for pete's sake while Vieira had Villa and a bunch of warm bodies (yes I'm including Lampard and Pirlo) to build a team with.
     
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  19. GunnerJacket

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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #194 GunnerJacket, Mar 11, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019
    Just to add some perspective to the FdB discussion:

    - FdB did not choose any of the personnel in the side. Bocanegra and Eales facilitated the switch of Pity for Almiron even though Atlanta could easily afford to match what Newcastle is paying the latter. They also let Greg Garza and Chris McCann go in exchange for signing Brek Shea.

    - Pity is clearly struggling to adapt to the team, and at least some of that is normal transition considering he's been with the team for all of 45 days. More importantly he is NOT a like-for-like swap for Almiron. He's slower, less inclined to attack in the final third, and his reads are different. An immense talent but this switch alone meant Atlanta would be a different team even if Martino was still at the helm.

    - FdB can't control the dumba** individual mistakes that have cost Atlanta defensively. LGP alone has essentially cost the team 3 goals allowed this season, with Parky and Robinson adding 1 apiece, as well. These weren't coaching errors, just moments when a player's mind switched off.

    - FdB was brought in with the exclusive directive to play the youth more than Martino. Barco, Robinson, Bello, Carleton... They're to be fostered as the season progresses. Robinson has thus far come good but while the others have talent at the least Barco remains an underperforming asset. He's been better than last year but be honest - Is he looking like a goal scoring threat to any of you? Until he turns the corner and fosters more production of his own in the final third, or until Pity morphs into a scoring striker, Atlanta will struggle while defenses crowd out Josef.

    - We're still not really sure about Nagbe's personal issue that caused him to miss most of the pre-season but with Almiron's absence Nagbe is now that much more critical to Atlanta's transition game and his absence for most of yesterday and in the 1st match at Herediano was noticed.

    - Atlanta's schedule thus far has not exactly been cake. At Costa Rica's previous champion, at a DCU side expected to push for the east, and at Monterrey, arguably the best side on the continent right now. This included a stretch of 3 games in 6 days. This doesn't excuse yesterday's performance but it should put into perspective the full record people are fretting over. And if the notion is "Yeah but this is Atlanta and they should've won..." then that speaks exactly to FdB's point about fan expectations perhaps lacking some grounding.

    - Managers should work with what they have, but likewise Atlanta hired FdB knowing both who he is and what players they had. If the goal is something long-term then this rough start is manageable, if not expected.

    - - -

    I'm not saying the guy is perfect by any stretch. His substitutions seem suspect, he clearly hasn't gotten Barco sorted out, and he'll have to show dynamic formations soon or else Josef will blow up as a lone striker. But Atlanta was in the game at Monterrey until the end and if they can turn the offense around then that will relieve the need for the defense to be perfect. (Cincy only got off 4 shots yesterday and only 1 on goal. Normally that yields a win.)

    Bottom line - Panicking at this stage is unwarranted and will only make matters worse. If Atlanta is as talented as the pundits believe then it will eventually come through.

    Says I, anyway.
     
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  20. xbhaskarx

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  21. xbhaskarx

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  22. xbhaskarx

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  23. xbhaskarx

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  24. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    So called "theft of honest services" prosecutions don't fare well when contested. The colleges would have a cause of action against their faithless employees but trying to make it a crime is a big step. Usually they make these cases as wire fraud or something like that.
     
  25. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
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    Would defrauding a public university be any different legally? So would the Cal people be charged differently than the Yale folks?
     

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