MLS coaches (current and potential) and coaching thread

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I can't believe this guy has a job coaching in MLS

Poll closed Sep 30, 2018.
  1. Veljko Paunović

    12.0%
  2. Gregg Berhalter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Ben Olsen

    23.1%
  4. Mauro Biello

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jay Heaps

    13.7%
  6. Patrick Vieira

    2.6%
  7. Jesse Marsch

    0.9%
  8. Jason Kreis

    4.3%
  9. Jim Curtin

    15.4%
  10. Greg Vanney

    0.9%
  11. Óscar Pareja

    1.7%
  12. Wilmer Cabrera

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Sigi Schmid

    5.1%
  14. Adrian Heath

    10.3%
  15. Caleb Porter

    0.9%
  16. Mike Petke

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Chris Leitch

    2.6%
  18. Brian Schmetzer

    0.9%
  19. Peter Vermes

    1.7%
  20. Carl Robinson

    4.3%
  1. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    So it looks like the era when foreign coaches were hampered by the budget rules is well past. Teams are no longer built from the draft. Budgets can handle seven figure transfers and salaries. International players easily earn a green card. All teams have a semblance of a development academy and can promote youngsters.

    Yes, the budget rules are Byzantine but by and large most coaches only ask one question: I need a player or three, how much money do I have? By and large the answer is always some appreciable amount.
     
  2. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps someone should explain this to Manny Lagos?
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


     
  4. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmmm...

    Perhaps Earnie Stewart should interview this guy...
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Manny Lagos just wants the mediocre players Minnesota has... Wait would that be good or bad??
     
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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More Pareja:
     
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  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curtin, like Olsen (the two with the most votes in the poll above), seems to have gone from the hot seat to saving his job over the last few months...

    New Union sporting director Ernst Tanner praises Curtin's work with Philly

     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1208 xbhaskarx, Oct 11, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2018
    My updated coaching hot seat power rankings...

    Already set to be replaced in 2019:
    -Stahre/Ralston --> Almeyda
    -Schmid/Kinnear --> ?
    -Robinson/Dalrymple --> ?

    MLS Coaching Hot Seat (as of 10/10/18)
    1. Anthony Hudson: 8 and 7 (current, with 1 GF 22 GA) game losing streaks
    2. James O'Connor: Impatient OC ownership can't be happy with 1-9-3 start
    3. Veljko Paunovic: Almost certainly gone at the end of the season, lost 8 straight not too long ago
    4. Adrian Heath: His boss will probably wait until he inevitably misses the playoffs once again in 2019
    5. Brad Friedel: They've been terrible since the end of June, with only 1 win

    Stock Up
    Olsen, Curtin, Garde: all three likely saved their jobs

    Special shout out to Stahre for being in contention for worst coach in MLS history.
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I've been calling for this for years.
     
  10. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not wild about the idea but plenty willing to be convinced.
     
  11. Sal Paradise

    Sal Paradise BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 14, 2009
    Club:
    Jaguares de Chiapas FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be a good rule. However, there needs to be some flexibility so as not to hurt teams in the crunch part of the schedule. Perhaps the last third of the schedule and playoffs would be excepted?
     
  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Great idea but it might be illegal.
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    How would it be illegal? It's not like saying all teams must have two Peruvians in the game day roster.

    As long as it's covered in the CBA, I can see any 31 year-old player making an "age discrimination" lawsuit against his own team because he wasn't on the game day 18.

    Generally sports league rosters aren't really covered by various gender, race, or age discrimination laws. At least I'm unaware of any successful history of lawsuits. The NBA, and various olympic sports, have successfully implemented minimum age restrictions.

    I'd like to hear of any rational about mandating one or two of the game day 18 spots being reserved for U-whatever players.

    As to Sal's point, if you don't have 2 U-xx players, leave those spots empty. Teams failing to dress 18 players is not uncommon - Or expand the game day roster to 19 or 20 and repeat the exercise, though that would seriously water down the actual playing time as some teams would just use those as token bench warmer spots instead of actual player development.
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Me too, sort of. I’d allow a longer bench if the extra players are U-x. For example, you get 1 extra sub if the player is U20, and another for a U-18. When the blowout comb is deployed, put in a kid to get some minutes.
    Nope. You have to be 40 years old to be in a protected class.
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I wouldn't change the game on the field. 3 subs is 3 subs.

    I'd be fine if the game day 18 had to have two U-23s. 22/23 is not an overly "young" player, and teams should have several college or just post-college aged players on their first team.

    Now that I think about it, I'd be in favor of this:
    16 - unrestricted age game day roster spots
    2 - U-23 spots
    2 - optional U-20 spots

    If you're developing young players, you get to dress additional players and have a deeper bench.
     
  16. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Sounds like Jason Kreis will be an assistant coach for Almeyda in San Jose. Didn’t see that coming.
     
  17. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid

    This would be good if it's U20 and make it USMNT eligible only. It would be similar with how Liga MX does it. Just implement an amount of total minutes that each team would have to play their U20 kid/kids. Anyone that fails to do so would lose points.
     
  18. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That didn't work out very well for Liga MX
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry I wasn't clear. That's not what I meant.

    What I meant is that you get 7 "overage" subs, and an 8th sub who is U-20, and a 9th sub who is U-18.

    For example, Tyler Durkin would NEVER not be on the sub's bench. Carleton would ALWAYS be on ATL's bench. So they would always be available the last 15 minutes of any blowouts.
    That's illegal.
     
  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, I can't believe there's an area where the Revs are ahead of the curve! They have been leaving roster spots empty for years!
     
  21. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably, but not as blatantly illegal as roster spots themselves. Though the fact that there is favoritism in actual play probably influences signing players so yeah, probably pretty illegal.
     
  22. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, I think they misinterpreted the rules and thought roster spots included front office staff. That's why they have 4.5 employees and they keep hiring GA coaches and GM's. The reason Burns is still around is that he still hasn't graduated
     
  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Veljko Paunovic “confident” he’ll be back with the Fire for 2019

    Heath: Minnesota still playing for our futures

    After a decade deputizing for Guardiola, Dome Torrent learns that soccer in NYC is a little different

    Earthquakes place big bet in naming Matías Almeyda head coach

    From the comments:

    Robert Jonas STAFF Oct 10, 5:37am

    He didn't want to elaborate on anyone on the current roster, but he did say he'll be watching over these next couple of weeks. Once the offseason begins, Almeyda will definitely be involved in personnel discussions with Fioranelli. He won't be able to fully clean house, but he will be able to make recommendations that will carry weight with the GM.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1225 xbhaskarx, Oct 13, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
    Ouch...







    Losing 2-0 at home to a team that had a -21 goal differential over their last seven games... oh and Heath junior (why is he playing regularly?) with a red card in the 103rd minute... #PassingGrade

    The natives seem restless, based on the replies here:



    Video of the scuffle near the end of the game:
    https://streamable.com/9b0wr
     
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