MLS coaches (current and potential) and coaching thread

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I can't believe this guy has a job coaching in MLS

Poll closed Sep 30, 2018.
  1. Veljko Paunović

    12.0%
  2. Gregg Berhalter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Ben Olsen

    23.1%
  4. Mauro Biello

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Jay Heaps

    13.7%
  6. Patrick Vieira

    2.6%
  7. Jesse Marsch

    0.9%
  8. Jason Kreis

    4.3%
  9. Jim Curtin

    15.4%
  10. Greg Vanney

    0.9%
  11. Óscar Pareja

    1.7%
  12. Wilmer Cabrera

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Sigi Schmid

    5.1%
  14. Adrian Heath

    10.3%
  15. Caleb Porter

    0.9%
  16. Mike Petke

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Chris Leitch

    2.6%
  18. Brian Schmetzer

    0.9%
  19. Peter Vermes

    1.7%
  20. Carl Robinson

    4.3%
  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Mike Petke Coaches Show: March 13, 2018
     
  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN
    MLS Confidential: Players polled on U.S. failure, salaries, pro/rel, overrated, underrated players

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    Other answers:

    Gregg Berhalter: 12%
    Tata Martino: 12%
    Bob Bradley: 10%
    Jesse Marsch: 8%
    Greg Vanney: 8%
    Peter Vermes: 7%
    Other: 18%
    No answer: 2%

    What the players said:
    "Vanney. Toronto is a team of leaders and guys who are definitely invested in the direction of the team and drive that team forward, but it takes a certain type of manager to bring all those leaders together."

    "Vieira because of all the experience he's had winning things."

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    Other answers:
    Ben Olsen: 9%
    Oscar Pareja: 9%
    Peter Vermes: 8%
    Sigi Schmid: 7%
    Adrian Heath: 6%
    Jesse Marsch: 6%
    Veljko Paunovic: 6%
    Other: 22%
    No answer: 16%

    What the players said:
    "I don't think myself and a handful of players saw eye-to-eye with [Cabrera] and, in return, basically never saw the field. I think maybe he was a grudge holder."

    "[Olsen is] a pretty good motivational, but I need someone to give me the tactics and X's and O's."

    "Whoever is coaching New England -- doesn't matter which coach it is."​

    lol
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that Marsch and Vermes show up on both lists.
     
  5. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    #480 Len, Mar 21, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2018
    Oh my gosh, that's funny!!
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This isn't exactly coaching, but it speaks to how shambolic the Revs are as an organization.

    http://www.espn.com/soccer/major-le...licating-new-york-red-bulls-usl-reserve-model

    That take is just so phenomenally stupid. "Our academy is only for stars who can walk straight into the MLS first team, ******** everyone else." How has that been working out for you so far, New England?

    It's unbelievable how far behind everyone else in the league they are.
     
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  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, that might be the dumbest quote I've read all week.
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States






    #Vermes4USMNTcoach
     
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  9. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile, Berhalter is quietly becoming the best American born coach in MLS. If he's not already there.
     
  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Berhalter, Bradley, Marsch, Vanney, Schmetzer, Petke, Vermes, Kreis, Curtin, Olsen, Friedel.

    That's my order, anyway.
     
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  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How did Olsen manage to sneak in front of someone?
     
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  12. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, I'd put Bradley, Marsch, then Berhalter in my top three.
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I mean, look at the someone.
     
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  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A little early to place Friedel below Olsen, isn’t it? The guy is only a few games into his coaching career, isn’t he?
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm not giving The Accent any benefit of the doubt.
     
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  16. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about Arena... :oops:
     
  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He's not managing.
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's been ahead of Mastroeni for a while

    (Though technically I guess Pablo wouldn't count as "American born" so never mind)
     
  19. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, according to Jack Edwards, Friedel is from Mars, so...
     
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  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #495 xbhaskarx, Mar 27, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2018
    Interesting discussion... I decided to rank all 23 MLS coaches by splitting them into quartiles, so here are my four tiers with 6,6,6,5:

    My ranking based on how they're doing right now and in recent history:

    Tier 1
    Greg Vanney

    Patrick Vieira
    Gregg Berhalter
    Jesse Marsch

    Tata Martino
    Bob Bradley

    Tier 2
    Mike Petke

    Wilmer Cabrera
    Oscar Pareja
    Peter Vermes
    Brian Schmetzer

    Veljko Paunovic

    Tier 3
    Carl Robinson
    Remi Garde
    Giovanni Savarese
    Mikael Stahre
    Sigi Schmid
    Jason Kreis

    Tier 4

    Anthony Hudson
    Adrian Heath
    Jim Curtin
    Brad Friedel
    Ben Olsen



    Ranking based on who I'd want coaching my expansion MLS team:

    Tier 1
    Jesse Marsch
    Greg Vanney

    Patrick Vieira
    Gregg Berhalter
    Bob Bradley

    Tata Martino

    Tier 2
    Oscar Pareja
    Giovanni Savarese
    Remi Garde
    Mike Petke
    Wilmer Cabrera
    Jason Kreis

    Tier 3
    Mikael Stahre
    Brian Schmetzer
    Anthony Hudson
    Peter Vermes
    Veljko Paunovic
    Carl Robinson

    Tier 4
    Jim Curtin

    Adrian Heath
    Sigi Schmid
    Ben Olsen
    Brad Friedel


    I think the top six coaches are pretty clear, whatever the order. It's crazy how quickly we've gone from the west dominating for half a decade to around five of the top six rosters and five of the top six coaches being in the east... Part of that is the Galaxy's decline over the last 18 months, Pareja / Dallas falling off a cliff six months ago, Porter and Arena not coaching currently (although I wouldn't have either in my top six), my anti-Vermes bias, and ranking Schmetzer quite low because he's just so bland...
     
  21. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not a fan of Friedel so far, mostly based on how he's handled the Lee Nguyen situation. But it is only 3 games into the season and the team's record isn't 1999 Metros bad. Now a good long winless streak will do a lot to change that, but let's at least wait until the snow melts before we hang him.
     
  22. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What?.. I already bought the rope
     
  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dynamo sign Jordan, Cabrera to extensions

    Best expansion team ever? Schmid puts his Sounders up vs. Bradley's Fire

    “Certainly, there's a lot of things that speak for Chicago, because they won the double that year,” Schmid said Tuesday as the Galaxy began preparations for Saturday afternoon's clash at StubHub Center. “And you've got to say that. But it was also a year in which the league was only [in its third season] and at that time you only had, what, was it 10 teams or so? It was a different time."
    What, Chicago was 2nd out of 6 teams... even Atlanta finishing 4th out of 11 teams is more impressive than Seattle's 3rd out of 8...
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Steven Goff calling out DC's horrible record... will Ben Olsen make it to the opening of Audi Field?



     
  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ben Olsen sucks, but it's not like he's working with a God Squad over there in D.C. He has done about as well as anyone could expect with the players at his disposal.
     
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