MLS 2019 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by firefan2001, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good post. But in point of fact there were 12 teams in 2000, not 10. Contraction happened after 2001.

    MLS in 2000: 12 teams, 1 SSS (Columbus).

    MLS in 2019: 24 teams, 19 SSS (counting Bridgeview).

    In 2020, 26 teams, 19 SSS + 1 under construction (Nashville, gain Miami & lose Chicago).

    The no's currently are: NE, Chicago, Vancouver, Seattle, NYC, Atlanta.
     
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  2. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Move Canada!
     
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  3. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And of course Vancouver, Seattle and Atlanta are all in good non-SSS situations that there’s little need to get out of should they choose not to. Chicago long term want to return to a better SSS and are working in that direction. NE and particularly NYCFC are the only real concerning situations IMO. One for historical struggles in Foxboro, and one for just a shit situation for both fans and teams in a stadium ill suited for anything but baseball.
     
  4. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    My bad, and thanks for the catch.
     
  5. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    NE is not in a bad situation. Their owner controls the stadium and revenue. No different than Atlanta.
    NE was one of the first teams to make a profit because of said stadium situation.
     
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  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And at one point led the league with healthy attendance in that stadium situation (well it might have been the prior NE stadium in Foxboro)
     
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  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Wasn't that stadium a very popular place to play for the USMNT? What happened...
     
  8. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Plus, those three non-SSS were designed to take soccer's requirements into account: as a potential WC host in Seattle's case; because Blank had always wanted a soccer team in Atlanta if he could get the numbers to stack up; Vancouver because the BC Place renovation started with an MLS expansion team announced and ready to move in
     
  9. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    If NER weren't neglected by their ownership they could be a Seattle/Atlanta-ish supported team. I think they could be a solid 30-45k attendance team.
     
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  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Stadium is too far out of town for that IMO.
     
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  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you don't think being strategically situated between Mass. Audobon's Moose Hill Wildlife Sanctuary and the F. Gilbert Hills State Forest is "urban" enough?
     
  12. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Season ticket holder for Atlanta, and my trip is 90 mins one way. Just sayin'. I know when I get there, though, the fan experience top rate.
     
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  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Thank you for sharing your hardcoreness. The cookie you are asking for is on its way.
     
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  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You 90 min into downtown... not into the middle of nowhere.
     
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  15. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm merely saying if the product is worthwhile the fans will travel. How many fans traveled hours to see their favorite college team yesterday? How many people do the same to see the Pats, Chiefs, etc.?

    If the team has built the rapport with the fans and make the gameday experience a good one fans will respond.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't that his point?
     
  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    17126 in Toronto vs the USMNT.
     
  18. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Move Canada
     
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  19. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    66114 in Atlanta. I believe it's their first ever playoff game below 70k.
     
  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    37722 in Seattle, so no bumper crowd. Still, this is a far cry from the usual panic inducing sub 10k crowds we tend to see in the opening round.
     
  21. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Helps it's not hosted in places where such crowds are possible.
     
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  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Post season attendances are more accurate than regular season as there aren't the same number of no shows. People who have paid for their tickets generally turn up.
     
  23. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Attendance for this ballgame at @BMOField Toronto:
    25,331 (per credit from @AronPapernick)
    #TORvDC #TORDC #DCU #TFCLive #MLSCupPlayoffs #MLSCup https://t.co/y5NKSyYJ6K
     
  24. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    17452 at the Stained River Stadium in Utah.
     
  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Setting kickoff at the same time as the Washington-Oregon rivalry game across town was probably not the strongest move.
     

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