MLS 2019 Attendance (Butts in Seats talk welcome)

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  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYI I just asked the Rapids Media Relations head for an updated capacity since the 17,400 number was a couple years old. They're now using 18,750 as the capacity for Rapids games (that includes two "temporary" bleachers above the north corners presumably, which is where the increase from the original 18,086 comes from).
     
  2. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's with the temporary bleachers? When 18,086 capacity isn't being filled.
     
  3. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    How often are these temporary bleachers in place and are tickets for them available every game?
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I said “temporary” with quotes because once they went in last(?) year they’ve never been removed and there's been people in them every game. I think they were put in originally before a WNT match and KSE would rather keep them in place to increase capacity for non-Rapids events than to pay to move them in and out.
     
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  5. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    15,609 in Chicago :confused::eek::rolleyes:o_O
    32,250 in Cincinnati (Sellout)
    13,623 in FC Dallas
    19,893 in Vancouver
     
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  6. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #81 NashSC, Jun 24, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2019
    Week 16

    Sat 6/22
    Chicago vs. RSL 15,609 78%
    Cincinnati vs. LAG 32,250 100%
    FC Dallas vs. Toronto 13,623 66%
    Vancouver vs. Colorado 19,893 90%
    Portland vs. Houston 25,218 100%

    Sun 6/23
    Columbus vs SKC 14,015 70%

    Week 16 total = 120,608
    Week 16 average = 20,101
    Week 16 games played = 6
    Week 16 capacity = 84%

    YTD total = 3,914,345
    YTD average = 20,282
    YTD total games played = 193
     
  7. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another meh crowd in New Jersey.
     
  8. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Instead of all these expansion money grabs, I wish they would work on trying to solve the attendance problems in Colorado, NYRB, Chicago, New England etc....
     
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  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    17,563 in NYRB :confused::eek::rolleyes:o_O

    Stadium was downsized to around 20k, so they are telling us that it was 2,437 short of a full stadium. Maybe 10k, no way there were 7k+ no shows.
     
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  10. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I agree
     
  11. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    Why can't they do both?

    I think Chicago is addressing theirs with the move back to the city and New England is mostly about their stadium.
     
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  12. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You think just by saying we are moving to Soldier Field everything is going to be OK, well they it's not going to be any better there.

    Krafft has been saying they are looking for a SSS for 10 years now, oh it's a lot more than just the stadium in New England.
     
  13. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    No, in fact, I didn't say that.

    I said that they are, indeed, trying to address the issues while at the same time expanding the league.
     
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  14. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    If they got a stadium in or around Boston that would solve most of the issues.
     
  15. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Getting a stadium in or around Boston and getting rid of Krafft would solve most of their issues.
     
  16. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    Agreed.

    I wonder what benefit he gets from owning the Revolution at this point.
     
  17. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First it's just a rumor we are moving to the city and if it is going to happen and there isn't a plan to be in a SSS in the city (playing at Soldier Field) than that plan will fail. We won't even be the second tenant, we will behind concerts, high school football games, battle of the bands etc.

    Expansion is fine, but the league seriously needs to look a the struggling teams (attendance wise)
     
  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The benefit is he gets 18-20 games a year to fill date at the Patriots stadium. I've been saying this for many years, New England COULD be just like Seattle or Atlanta, but Krafft just doesn't care or want to put money and effort into it.
     
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  19. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    I think they are hence why I think they can do both.

    Columbus is getting a restart with ownership and stadium and hopefully Chicago is making moves.

    That's two of the problems being addressed as we speak.
     
  20. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Colorado? NYRB? New England? FC Dallas? Houston?
     
  21. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    We already talked about New England.

    Don't know what can be done about FC Dallas who has invested heavily in the Frisco site so they seem stuck.

    Houston has already built a new stadium near downtown Houston so don't know what can be done there.

    Colorado is Colorado. You either accept what they are are move them.

    Red Bulls same as Houston. Nice stadium Jersey and have had some success just don't seem to generate much support.
     
  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does that mean?
     
  23. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Week 17

    Good week despite the 2 lack luster Wednesday attendances.

    Wed 6/25
    NER vs Philly 11,571 58%
    DC vs Orlando 17,398 87%
    Toronto vs Atlanta 24,598 79%
    Montreal vs Portland 15,167 73%
    Dallas vs Vancouver 11,911 58%
    SJ vs Houston 15,563 86%

    Fri 6/28
    NYRB vs Chicago 17,563 70%
    Colorado vs LAFC 15,968 88%

    Sat 6/29
    Minnesota vs Cincinnati 19,778 102%
    Atlanta vs Montreal 44,627 105%
    NYCFC vs Philly 24,451 85%
    Columbus vs Orlando 17,715 89%
    NER vs Houston 17,372 87%
    DC vs Toronto 18,854 94%
    SJ vs LAG 50,850 100%
    RSL vs SKC 18,933 84%
    Seattle vs Vancouver 44,489 100%

    Sun 6/30
    Portland vs Dallas 25,218 100%

    Week 17 total = 412,026
    Week 17 average = 22,890
    Week 17 games played = 18
    Week 17 capacity = 86%

    YTD total = 4,326,371
    YTD average = 20,504
    YTD total games played = 211
     
  24. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Week 18

    Wed 7/3
    NYCFC vs Seattle 18217 63%
    Chicago vs Atlanta 13476 67%
    Minnesota vs SJ 19653 101%
    Orlando vs Philly 22364 88%
    SKC vs LAFC 19754 107%
    Houston vs NYRB 19531 89%
    RSL vs Columbus 19030 94%

    Thur 7/4
    FC Dallas vs DCU 19096 93%
    Colorado vs NER 15584 79%
    LAG vs Toronto 25482 94% (the documented capacity i can find is 27k, but I don't think that is right and think this game was actually a sellout)

    Sat 7/6
    Cincy vs Houston 26276 78%
    Montreal vs Minnesota 16796 81%
    Columbus vs Seattle 14183 71%
    SKC vs Chicago 18570 101%
    SJ vs RSL 15339 85%
    LAFC vs Vancouver 22472 102%

    Sun 7/7
    Atlanta vs NYRB 68077 96%
    Philly vs Orlando 18574 100%
    NYCFC vs Portland 18363 64%


    Week 18 total = 411038
    Week 18 average = 21633
    Week 18 games played = 19
    Week 18 capacity = 87%

    YTD total = 4,326,371
    YTD average = 20,597
    YTD total games played = 230
     
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  25. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    The league has been 83-88% capacity each week since I started tracking. That is really good IMO.
     

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