MLS 2018 Attendance Thread

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not a streaker, she was dressed.

    I want those 17 x 51 seconds of my laugh back again!
     
  2. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    How long ago was this? I have never seen them focus on a fan on the field. Actually now they intentionally don't show them at all on TV.

    Not that I blame them.
     
  3. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    It was a while ago. I watched this game. She was interviewed later on Twitter.
     
  4. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Is anyone still storing numbers? Will we be able to get team by team breakdowns and all that good stuff at the end of the year?
     
  5. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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  9. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I can tell
     
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  10. midfielder467

    midfielder467 Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
  11. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    22k isn't out of reach.
     
  12. midfielder467

    midfielder467 Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    390 games @ 22K is 8, 580, 000

    360 games to date is 7, 781, 011

    Difference is 798, 989

    798, 989 / 30 games is 26, 633

    Meaning an average of 26, 633 over the last 30 games, I still say looks out of reach.
     
  13. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Not arguing for or against just adding to the math.
    Atlanta is expecting 72k for last home game.
    789989-72000=726,989/29=25,068
    Minnesota is also expecting a big crowd.
    Seattle has a home game left.
     
  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    38,631 for USA vs Colombia.
     
  15. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    any theories on why attendance was down this year? USA missing world cup?
     
  16. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Several factors.
    • A team was added (LAFC) and their stadium only holds 22k. That is slightly lower than last years average. So 17 games at that stadium will not help improve on the average from 2017.
    • DC United played a couple games at a very small capacity stadium. However their average is only down 4% from last year.
    • Columbus attendance is way down for obvious reasons. It is down 21%. The fans have essentially been told this is a lame duck season. Not saying that will happen, so don't attack. Just saying that is what they have been told/insinuated.
    • Now the rest of these fall into your question. These teams have dropped. Why? Some of them I can guess. Some I don't know.
      • Chicago down 16% (league really needs to do something here IMO...also had a very poor season)
      • NY Red Bulls down 13% (I don't get this one, team doing well)
      • NER down 9% (this could improve a little)
      • Montreal down 8% (this one surprises me too, did they have more early games at the larger stadium last year?)
      • Seattle down 7% (a little surprising. They seemed to have reached their ceiling. Not a bash as that ceiling is higher than all but 1 team.)
      • Philly, Toronto down 3% (really poor seasons would be my guess for this)
      • Orlando, San Jose, Houston down 4% (poor seasons)
    • 7 teams have increased their average from last year.
    • 2 are even (Portland and Colorado)

    Info from here https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2018-mls-attendance/
     
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  17. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If a really poor season for Philly means setting franchise records for wins, road wins, and point in a season...........

    Philly's drop in attendance is largely due to past poor seasons, plus IMO a chunk of the fan base has moved on permanently due to the first 8 seasons of futility.
     
  18. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #1843 NashSC, Oct 12, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
    Sorry I meant that only for Toronto. Misspoke with the plural on seasons.
    Just put Philly and Toronto on the same line as they were both 3% drop.
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1844 Yoshou, Oct 12, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2018
    There are a several of factors here.. They have reached their ceiling, the Sounders FO has not been very good at marketing and fan outreach ever since they broke off from the business side of the Seahawks FO, and fans have caught on to the fact that the team just doesn't care that much about the first half of the regular season. Sounders used to be a fun team to watch every game, but over the last three seasons, the first half of the season has been dismal to watch, they bring in a DP or TAM (Lodeiro 2 seasons ago, Leerdam last season, Ruidiaz this season) at midseason, then go on a tear for the rest of the season. If the FO doesn't care about the regular season, why should the fans?
     
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  20. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Is this Seattle's first decline in average attendance since being in MLS?
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1846 Paul Berry, Oct 12, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
    Shot in the dark - season ticket holders who've been conspicuous by their absence in previous seasons did not renew in 2018??
     
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  22. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The Red Bulls being down in the midst of one of the best seasons of all time is the biggest concern I'd say. A for New England, they still have a home game, right? Their last game of the season is usually a giant one (35k+).
     
  23. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Do you guys think 20k is just the ceiling for the Red Bulls? RBA is simply too big for their fanbase?
     
  24. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's more the perception that Red Bull Arena is a PITA to get to. Hopefully that will soon be remedied now that the Cortlandt Street subway station at the WTC has finally be completed and the Harrison PATH station renovations are moving along.
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Each time I suggest RBA is a PITA to get to someone angrily retorts "well I never have a problem getting to RBA", which is the opposite of what I hear from Jersyites face to face.

    I have a friend who from North Jersey has begged the FO to put on a shuttle bus from Giants' Stadium to get around the parking issues at RBA. In the meantime he still claims to be a Red Bulls' fan but gets his soccer fix at Yankee Stadium.

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