MLS 2017 Week 17 Continuous PBP Thread [Multiple R]

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  1. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 Ismitje, Jun 21, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2017
    Things in week 17 start early with a couple of Confed Cup games (Russia/Portugal and Mexico/New Zealand) and then four-plus-one MLS games on Wednesday - and it's Wednesday already in much of BigSoccer-land where MLS fans live. So here we go.

    All games broadcast on MLS Live and Direct Kick unless otherwise noted; all times Eastern.

    Wednesday 21 June

    Atlanta at DC United, 7:30 pm
    Toronto at Montreal (Canadian Championship), 7:30 - TSN Canada (only?)
    Portland at Minnesota, 8:00
    Los Angeles at Colorado, 9:00
    Orlando at Seattle, 10:30

    Friday 23 June

    New England at Toronto, 8:00
    Dallas at Houston, 9:00, UniMas

    Saturday 24 June

    NYCFC at NYRB, 1:30, FOX
    Colorado at Atlanta, 7:00
    DC United at Philadelphia, 7:00
    Montreal at Columbus, 7:30
    Vancouver at Minnesota, 8:00
    Orlando at Chicago, 8:30
    Kansas City at Los Angeles, 10:30
    Salt Lake at San Jose, 10:30

    Sunday 25 June

    Seattle at Portland, 3:30, ESPN
    -> EDIT: Moved to 10 pm on ESPN2 on account of the heat

    As always, keep it friendly here in the neutral PBP thread.
     
  2. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Wednesday night is a great night for football????
     
  3. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    ********.
     
  4. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As part of Date #3 (they're all lasting a week), my fiancé is attending her first professional soccer match tonight (Portland at Minnesota)... :):D:thumbsup:
     
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  5. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    #5 Len, Jun 21, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2017
    You da man!

    Good, good. Hope y'all have a good time.

    When I met my second wife, she wouldn't have recognized a soccer ball if it whacked her upside the head. But she came around and, while not as big a fan as me (she's not as likely to sit and watch an entire game on TV - USMNT being an exception), she's always ready to work in a game if we travel to a city that has a team.
     
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  6. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I hope you two kids have a great time.


    I also hope your team loses.
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @Ismitje I'm disappointed you didn't include the critical game today:

    Getafe at Tenerife, 2:55pm, beIn Sports - Promotion Playoff Final Leg 1

    ;)
     
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  8. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I'd be ok with a tie. :thumbsup:
     
  9. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't know it was on beIn. Cool.
     
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  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This leg is on beIn and beIn Espanol. Leg 2 on Saturday is only in Spanish
     
  11. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    This is great!

    We get two DC United losses over with in a single week.

    Praise efficiency!
     
  12. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I didn't like that Salcedo didn't receive a card during the WCQ against the US.
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Juan Carlos LOLsorio
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tenerife spoiler for Ismtije (open)
    Tenerife takes the lead at the 22nd minute!
     
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  15. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a marginally competent francophone but proud pedant, I must point out that she's a fiancée. You are the fiancé.
     
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  16. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends. Are you a DC United fan?
     
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  17. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #17 ArsenalMetro, Jun 21, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2017
    New Zealand just did a terrific job of playing directly into Mexico's hands.

    VAR is still stupid. They took 4 minutes to sort that out and issued one yellow card.

    And then the ref ********ed up, allowed play to restart, realized he wasn't supposed to, and issued two more.

    And now we're on a 5-minute delay.

    I agree with this tweet wholeheartedly:



    And this one too:

    877615417614716932 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  18. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That was awful. That should have been 3 Reds to Mexico and a Yellow for the original foul and 1 red and 1 yellow to New Zealand.

    VAR is supposed to help cut out stupidity like this. There were 2 clear headbutts by Mexican players. 1 clear kicking out by a mexican player, 1 New Zealand player with a push from behind, and Marco Fabian and a NZ player involved in a slapping match.
     
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  19. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    From your keyboard to Garber's ears, I hope. :D
     
  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Exactly. If the results of VAR are only going to be marginally different than what would happen without it, then what's the point?

    I'm not a replay hater in most other sports, but it needs to be drastically limited in scope for it to be effective. In the soccer context, it should really only be used for goals and offside, contingent on the offside rule being re-written to require more separation between attacker and defender. Goal review should be instant (like in the Premier League), and offside review, with a better rule, shouldn't take more than 15-20 seconds.

    I'll add that VAR in the offside context should be limited to the action immediately preceding a goal. None of this garbage like the NHL where they can go back almost indefinitely.
     
  21. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hell of a road trip

    Also resolving any mistaken identity in card awarding
     
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  22. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The post game basically covered it.

    Essentially, the final decision is on the center ref and he clearly lost the plot. It's interesting to see what VAR officials told the ref to look at and if they suggested anything. (Knowing FIFA ... we will never know).

    As with the scope, this tournament and the U20 tournament were really the first "tests" outside of a few trial periods in club soccer. There are going to need to be adjustments and set guidelines. I agree with the offside rule because we can go back a good 2 minutes in some cases.

    Looking back at the multiple replays, there should have been 4 red and 2 yellows to Mexico and 3 reds and 3 yellows to New Zealand at the very minimum. That was bad and he nearly forgot the yellow to Reyes who committed the initial foul.

    Mexico has the depth, but they got lucky with the ref. There could easily have been quite a few suspensions for the Russia game.
     
  23. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I do wonder if New Zealand would benefit from having some agreement where they play away qualifiers during Aug-May in a flyable distance from Europe/North America and then the home qualifiers in the summer. It may allow them to feature more of their big name players.

    This is if they ever leave oceania where they currently spend 4 years preparing for a home and home against someone with a half spot.

    Although the 2026 WC with expanded spots is rumored to give Oceania 1 full spot.
     
  24. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Just realized that New Zealand features not one, but two USL players. Deklan Wynne (Whitecaps 2) and Kip Colvey (Reno, on loan from San Jose). Reminds me of when Andrew Boyens was on the 2010 World Cup roster.
     
  25. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    It was, until I found out (was reminded) I had a meeting 30 minutes north of where I work. Which turns a quickish 30 minute jaunt to RFK into a potentially 1.5hr sweat-fest. Not to mention all the ancillary issues of driving an hour home after maybe too many consumables.

    Stay at home and watch it became the order of the day.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
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