MLS 2016 TV Thread (Ratings, Historical Data, Contracts etc)

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  1. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    That seems pretty huge actually. Is MLS finally getting the Spanish-speaking audience back after losing them some time in the 90s? Or is it just the Galaxy?
     
  2. ukraine76

    ukraine76 Member

    Feb 8, 2001
    New York
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's definitely Galaxy to some degree and also let's not judge it by the opening game. Numbers went down a lot last year. If they can settle into 300-350k range total - great in my opinion.

    The good news is that this Sunday TV viewers were treated to very good and decent quality games. I felt that it was pretty damn impressive for opening day.
     
  3. DanielCzech

    DanielCzech Member

    Mar 10, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
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  4. areathrasher

    areathrasher Member

    Mar 26, 2014
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
     
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  5. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
  6. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    This.

    And Sunday night is traditionally a better night for tv ratings than is Friday night.
     
  7. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS 2016 Regular Season TV Viewership Summary

    Home teams listed first. All times are Eastern.

    Averages are only listed if we have compiled all the games for a specific network.

    FS1 (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified)
    Game 1: 267k (SEA vs KC) Sunday 7:00pm 3/6/2016

    Fox Deportes (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified)
    Game 1: 24k (SEA vs KC) Sunday 7:00pm 3/6/2016

    ESPN (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified)
    Game 1: 362k (POR vs COLU) Sunday 4:00pm 3/6/2016

    UDN: (all ratings for 2 hour window unless specified)
    Game 1: 148k (LA vs DC) Sunday 10:00pm 3/6/2016

    Unimas: (all ratings for 2 hour window unless specified)
    Game 1: 320k (LA vs DC) Sunday 10:00pm 3/6/2016

    =======================================

    Non US numbers

    Canada

    Game 1: 96k NYR vs TFC: Sunday 3/6/2016 TSN
    Game 2: 205k VAN vs MON Sunday 3/6/2016 TSN

    England
    Game 1: 100k CHI vs NYC Sunday 3/6/2016 Sky Sports
     
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  8. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I have always said there is money to be made from overseas contracts. The wild and unpredictable nature of MLS games can be a huge selling point in parts if the world where the local domestic leagues follow pretty much the same script from year to year.
     
  9. midfielder467

    midfielder467 Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    ^^^^^^^^

    If I add all those numbers together I get 1, 522 with 7 games meaning an average 217..

    FSI 267
    Fox 24
    ESPN 362
    VDN 148
    Uni 320
    Canada 96
    205
    Eng 100

    1,522

    Just asking as I am from Australia and am trying to get a feel for what an MLS game rates.
     
  10. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    What a game to watch too. A good advertisement for the league. Nice work by Chicago to show up, although nyc not playing defense in midfield was helpful.
     
  11. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A caveat to that type of calculation. The TV viewership is collected differently between the three countries. I know one significant difference is that the US rating is households alone, whereas Canada's includes a public viewing estimate (sports bars, etc). The SkySports number is done differently, the US does an average over the entire block the program was on (so the game may peak with much higher numbers at one moment than in the average), I believe that is not the case in the UK.
     
  12. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another thing to note. Here in the US we simulacast games on two stations at a time, so if you are looking for the number for anyone game, you need to add numbers from two sources.

    The station pairings are typically

    ESPN(or ESPN2)/ESPN Deportes
    FS1/Fox Deportes
    UDN/Unimas
     
  13. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Digital viewing is increasing.
     
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  14. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    damn, why couldn't he just throw in the number? I am curious what size we are talking about here....
     
  15. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Click on the time stamp. Someone did ask. He responded he didn't have it.
     
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  16. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It can't be big. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...amid-fall-in-MLS-Cup-final-TV-viewership.html
     
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  17. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    "Online viewership" is likely a very different metric. It is likely a "stream starts" or unique IP "count."

    TV average audience data (persons ratings) is just that, an estimate of the TV audience size at any average minute of the program per Nielsen. I do not believe Nielsen regular reports "average audience ratings" for online content/viewing -- but ESPN would have some online analytics tool to track/count their own online presence and digital streamed activity.

    "Average TV audience" size to "online count/viewership" comparisons are very likely an apples to oranges comparison.
     
  18. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Article has a partial answer:
     
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  19. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Impressive numbers, but due note that some of those data are "reach/cume" numbers, as opposed to "average audience" (the standard Nielsen tv metric).
     
  20. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    NYCFC - Napoli
    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The average audience has been 100,000, while the peak has been 200,000.........
     
  21. ivannomad

    ivannomad Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    Tyler, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Why the hell would someone who lives in northeast Texas be under blackout restriction for mls live on the Dallas Houston match? Wtf???

    Anyone understand why this would be occurring
     
  22. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    #122 tab5g, Mar 12, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2016
    So you pay the monthly pay tv subscription to the local/regional broadcast partner showing the games.

    http://live.mlssoccer.com/mlsmdl/help.jsp
     
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  23. ivannomad

    ivannomad Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    Tyler, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yet that network is not offered on my cable package... Having seen the score on Twitter I suppose this is a blessing.
     
  24. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Upgrade your cable package. Get satellite. Change provider. Go to a public establishment showing the game. You have options. The blackout rules are known ahead of time and fairly well publicized. It is all business.
     
  25. ivannomad

    ivannomad Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    Tyler, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Thanks for the advice. If I actually thought I was in a Houston market I would have considered all those options. Again. Don't live anywhere near Houston. I'm not a dumbass. Upgrading the package wouldn't matter. Just asking a question in a forum dedicated to the broadcast aspect of MLS to see if anyone understood the logic. Have a nice day.
     
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