Mitchell and Ness Swag

Discussion in 'Sons of Ben' started by aztec21bas, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would the SOB leaders in the past have sold themselves out to shill for corporate money? Would they have pandered themselves and marketed the SOB logo to promote the Union and Mitchell and Ness? I purchased a scarf, but I felt really slimy doing it. The tifo was really over the top. What thinks everyone else? @Dills? Is the SOB just a marketing arm for the Union? I realize that everything changes over time, but I really miss the old days and the old leadership.
     
  2. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 138
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wish I could rep that more than once

    would fans load up in a bus and drive to DC to troll New England while wearing their "fresh" Mitchell and Ness gear?

    I made the comment on twitter that it seems the current leaders have sold the group's soul for a quick buck. wonder how many bucks they got from this... guess I'll wait to see the financials when the SOBs release them to their dues paying members

    not to mention that most of the stuff is garbage (snake hat excluded). the half sob logo/ half union logo crap looks like stuff my kids made in preschool when their teachers gave them scissors, glue and some magazines. but the sheep were lining up to buy it up. baaaaaaaaa
     
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  3. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't hold your breath waiting for that disclosure.
     
  4. sccaflagger74

    sccaflagger74 Member

    Apr 24, 2005
    Drexel Hill
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't renew my membership this year because I have no faith that the money isn't being pilfered. I'm sure the SoB leadership is getting enough of a cut from the Mitchell & Ness stuff to make up for my paltry membership fee.
     
  5. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The branded tifo seemed to be the thing that really put people into the WTF column.
     
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  6. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone have any pictures of this? I couldn't make the game.
     
  7. jerseysob

    jerseysob Member

    Sep 3, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    the lack of creativity is what offended me. seems like it took all of 5 minutes to create the whole line. i swore people would see right through that and wouldn't buy anything.
     
  8. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 138
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reminds me of a song lyric

    "They say jump and ya say how high..."
     
  9. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup.
     
  10. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #10 thomas19064, Jul 11, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2016
    Well considering the new president previously worked in the Union FO....... :whistling:



    Honestly I don't care much one way or the other, getting upset over "selling out" seems silly to me ...although I do wonder a bit where the money goes, it's not like our Tifo is anything special when compared to the other teams, and the sob experience does feel a bit stale/mailed in.

    I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that any extra revenue gets reinvested for a better experience.
     
  11. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never said I was upset, just question the way things are handled compared to the past.
     
  12. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hello there.
     
  13. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I made the game but I was under the tifo. Didn't even realize until now that we were advertising.
     
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  14. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The seating angle of TRE will always be an issue with overhead tifo until that second level expansion is completed.

    Took me a minute to realize what the red squiggly line was on the center portion.
     
  15. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    ...what was it?
     
  16. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In case you're not being facetious ...
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nope, I'm in 135 so I never know what the hell is above me or the other sections in TRE. Maybe M&N can pay to put some flagpoles up or something so we can really show the league how much we love them (and I can actually see the banners too!)
     
  18. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously? The Tifo director helped design the swag, that's why the Tifo was what it was. Also, that design is from a Tifo display the SOB's did a few seasons ago.

    From what I understand, proceeds from sales of the Mitchell & Ness line are going to charity.

    ALL supporters groups are de-facto marketing arms for MLS.............. It's not like MLS shows families of 4 in their advertisements for National TV games now............just looks at the ads on ESPN and Fox Sports, and the MLS website.........

    I do see your point about a supporters group w/o a team going to random MLS matches @aztec21bas . I believe the SOB's are still the only group to do that. The Union are quite possibly the only MLS team that has an "organic," "grassroots" beginning. That's something the founders of the group, and it's early members should always be proud of.
     
  19. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are a segment of Union fans looking for any and every chance to trash SoB elders whether it's justified or not.
     
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  20. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Pretty sure the intent was to finally make sob stuff that doesn't look like complete shit.
     
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  21. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey now, some of that early stuff was <fire emote> <fire emote> <fore emote> ...
     
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  22. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Moderator
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    Mar 28, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's also a group of SoB elders that wouldn't do a deal with beer or apparel. Somehow the beer didn't feel offensive but the apparel and co-branded tifo was very far removed.
     
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  23. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    As far as the beer, us at neshaminy creek and yards just give free beer for the tailgates, so that the tailgate can actually happen. I drive it in my car to chester on game weeks, the come back to pick up the keg system, clean, repeat. We do this because we want to contribute, and are actually season ticket holders/ supporters. They make the sob beer for free. I think people are overestimating the amount of money made by the sob/other orgs for these type of "deals"
     
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  24. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Moderator
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    Mar 28, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant the co-branded beer - Sons of Ben Rowdy Ale, not beer deals in general which are mutually beneficial in building brand recognition and loyalty while filling eager palates with great beer.

    #JAWN
     
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  25. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
     

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