Mike Petke: stay or go?

Go.

 

is this vote asking if we think he should stay or go right now?

 

I want someone familiar with the league, at least in some fashion, and preferably experience. Tata was an outlier in his ability to step into the league as a new coach and find a way to have success. I don't think we have the ability to attract that level of coaching talent, but maybe I'm off.

Robin Fraser is one that always comes to mind for me. I often wonder where the club would have gone had he been coach instead of Cassar. What other names do people have as potential options? With Waibel picking the coach I'm... less than optimistic.

Ante Razov (LAFC assistant)?
Jill Ellis?
Maybe one of these guys?

 

F*** Yeah! Jill Ellis! Smash that Patriarchy!!

And why not Jill Ellis? If men can coach women's soccer, why can't women coach men's soccer? It seems to me that women coachs focus more on the basics of the game and at times, I thought that RSL needed to go back to basics instead of chasing the latest MLS craze. I don't know if she would want to coach men's soccer or even come to RSL to coach, but I don't see why not.

I like Robin Fraser's name for next RSL coach. I think he got the short end of the stick at Chivas and I think he would be a good coach.

Freddy Juarez always comes to mind as a replacement.

How 'bout Olave? He's been an interim coach twice. Would he be better than Freddy Juarez? I dunno.

 

1) I think Petke needs to go if not now, by end of season
2) I feel that D Hansen needs to be very clear with what RSL's goals are.
Mid table break even team,
hobby team where he is willing to commit monies greater than receipts to climb the rankings or
Shoot for the moon budget and intentions.
Once the goal is clear he can then find a technical director, head coach and GM combination. Obviously the goals dictate the budget but I feel like after lucking into Kreis, Manning, and Lagerway we keep trying to repeat the combination without putting effort into it.

 

I'm done with Petke.

 

I've been ready for Petke to get sacked for quite a while now. This latest incident is just the cherry on a shit sundae, as far as I'm concerned.

 

To me it’s obvious that his goal for the senior team is to contend for the playoffs (not sure exactly how to define that) at the least possible expenditure. I admit that I could very well be wrong, but I haven’t seen or heard anything from him to indicate otherwise. Last season when things weren’t looking good for Weibel I predicted that he would be retained for this season if RSL made the playoffs. That’s what happened, which only served to cement my viewpoint that making the playoffs is DLH’s goal.

 

I've been done with Petke since last season but his recent outburst seals it for me. If I went off at someone in my work place and called them a homophobic slur, then followed them down a hallway with a poster with the same slur on it, I'd be sent packing. It's one thing to argue with referees, it's another to be a vile ass. At this point either he goes or I go.

RSL has made some good moves in recent years in terms of development academy, the Royals and Monarchs and even some better marketing and online content. Keeping Petke shows me that the organization doesn't care about being classy in the slightest and that they're not committed to winning on the field.

RSL has a rare opportunity here to clean house. I'd love to see Petke out and the club bring in a fairly well-known coach from Liga MX along with a well-known Liga MX player like Pizarro or someone like that. I'm sure they'll do no such thing, though.

 

So about those apologies . . .

 

I do not have confidence in Petke or Weibel and I am on the change train. Early on I liked both, but as time has gone on what they have done wrong has burden the team more than what they have done right.

During Petke first season, taking over from Cassar, our 2nd half of the season RSL was 2nd best in points per game. We were right behind record setting Toronto. I acknowledge our 2nd half was a little easier, but we kept pace with Toronto at nearly 2 points per game. We were a team no one wanted to face in the playoffs.

With clearly an incomplete team, lack of center forward, I thought Petke was our coach of the future. I just dont understand how he could go from that good to what we have now.

This team has shown some success. The win against the Union was dominating. I believe with a better coach we would have more of a winning consistency.

 

I could see a turnaround here like there has been at Colorado and New England. I think New England is the better example. Our players are good, but they are oddly paired and compensated. Get someone in here with a damn plan, a blueprint for success, and follow it. Both Waibel and Petke are problematic, but one of the two just recently really stepped in it. You'd think Poolboy would have been Waibel's exit ticket as well.

 

Leaders need fire, Leaders have to manage fire and Leaders have to be accountable for and more circumspect about what they both say and do. I blame the team performance more on ownership and GM than coach right now.

For me the fact that Petke completely lost his shit is more concerning than his choice of words.

I mean, jeebus, we go to games right? We play pick-up games right? And if you're in the same universe I'm in then you hear these same words ALL THE TIME. P*** is ********ing colloquial and for worse is part of Central American futbol.

Frankly don't see his use of it as a discriminatory thing undermining the Civil and Sexual rights of others, I see it as an ironic and probably angry/racist/outraged use of the term against Latin officiating, and that's a big red flag because it makes him look (maybe this is my lens) like a kind of white nationalist bully...Devils' advocate - I'd also like to know why he was so livid. We all know Beckerman calls people ********ing cunts all the time. We accept that, yeah "that's Captain Kyle". Where's the moral outrage?

I applaud MLS for drawing its own line and holding leaders accountable to that, and for defending referees from outrageous aggressive behavior - but I don't think it's as simple as just doing that, and I don't think doing that will change futbol culture, with all it's slanderous terms, corruption, and match fixy bullshit in the CONCACAF region. The outrage is strange. Coaches can't say these words, but fans can chant it and players can say whatever. It's a strange moral maginot line that's routinely avoided...

Leaders need fight. For better or for worse, this is the shadow of printer guy. I'm in the stay camp - for now...but I'd see how the players felt. They're the ones he influences, their opinion matters more than ours.

 

Wow! The bad-word algorithm sure missed that one. But, hey. Thanks for pointing out a swear word that I can use without being obscured by ********.

 

Just lucky I guess?

 

I agree with some of this and disagree with some too.
Agree: the outrage toward Petke without similar outrage toward Beckerman is not reconcilable.
Disagree: What Petke said is absolutely unacceptable. He coaches for an American team. In this culture he crossed the line. Central American futbol culture in this incident is irrelevant.

 

@sitruc

 

What the fuck am I being summoned for?

1. To explain how code can be used to defeat the filter,
2. ponder why Chad Ashton still has a job,
3. recommend hiring Ben Olsen, or
4. express general condemnation for Petke.

//The default color is a dark grey. In the past, I would occasionally make a single letter black to get around the filter, but a Canadian complained.

 

Summoned because they missed a word. c*** apparently is good to go. No funky code tricks.

 

What, summoned like some evil spirit? And your filter slipped up again.