Miguel Borja - news and comments

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Doogs, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    In slow motion maybe teo was offisde. But in real time it is not easy for a linesman to see that. A close call always goes to the forward.
    Maybe VAR might have overturn it but it was close.


    As for Borja he needed this badly. Could make things very interesting come June roster time.
     
  2. Bomb8

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    Jun 19, 2017
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    Colombia
    It's almost impossible to leave Borja out. By any stretch of the imagination I can't see any other striker in better shape than him. I'd even leave Duvan out before Borja, no matter if it's a good decision on paper tactics wise.
     
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  3. HomietheClown

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    Well, Bacca recently had a hat-trick in Spain and (as I have been saying a lot lately) I think it may come down to him and Borja for a striker spot.
    So the decision is not an easy one if it works out that way.

    Duvan has proven to be a little more useful than Borja. That match in Peru proved that he can play along side Falcao. That could be the edge he has over Borja currently.
     
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  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    hmmm dont get confused by this hattrick...yeah he is in shape...but think that bacca had for example a better smester...

    not every match he is scoring in league

    and a lot of times was the first to sub
     
  5. Bomb8

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    Jun 19, 2017
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    Duvan has certain characteristics that are useful, other than that he is just an average player. Muriel can play as Falcaos partner too and he can play as a winger. Duvan was also totally lost against China so it's not like always delivers. Bacca has been scoring lately but outside the box he does more harm than good (unless there is a through pass). And the nt just doesn't seem to play the way that would take advantage of Baccas style. I admit this is hard decision.
     
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  6. HomietheClown

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    I would not say he is an average player but that is not what the discussion is about. And the discussion is not about Muriel either.
    If it comes down to Duvan and Borja I think Duvan has an edge.
    If it comes down to Bacca and Borja I think Bacca has a slight edge too.
    That means Borja may be the odd man out. But nothing is set in stone and it is just speculation. Maybe all three make the team (I doubt it but who knows?)
     
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    I also think it is very difficult to sweep under the rug all of Borja's misses against Australia. Including a penalty.
    IT should not be a huge factor but it is the last image of what we saw from Borja when he was trying to make an impression.
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Muchas opciones el mismo las genero.......
     
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  9. Bomb8

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    Jun 19, 2017
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    #159 Bomb8, May 17, 2018
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    But Baccas problem is that usually he doesn't even find himself in situations where there is a chance to miss.
     
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  10. HomietheClown

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    I agree with both of you.
    But does Pekerman agree? That remains to be seen.
    He may just go with the old reliable player he has seen much more of and hope he wakes up.
     
  11. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    especially in a game where no one was creating anything.
     
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  12. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    There’s been games where I didn’t even know bacca was playing. At least with Borja you can fee his presence when watching a game.

    Until bacca has a hat trick in this WC, I am always going to be sour about the game I saw live when Bacca missed a few golden opportunities to score against Peru in 16CA
     
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  13. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    maybe he'll have a Jackson moment, does nothing for Colombia his whole career but then scores 3 at a WC match
     
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  14. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
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    Atletico Nacional
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    Not holding my breath with Bacca
     
  15. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    #165 pepinointer, May 17, 2018
    Last edited: May 17, 2018
    Man this is so unfair and ungrateful:

    Bacca score goals in matches that we won only by one goal...........the assist and played he made with cardona in last minute is part of because we are in the world cup.

    i Know that in twitter and futbolred people refered like this about our players,

    But bacca was important to contribute in our classfication......with goals and assitances.....dont imagine us in russi without his brilliant pivot with cardona in assuncion.....or his goal in la paz or even the two goals in barranquilla against ecuador

    bacca have the same goals in nt than tren valencia and aristizabal......
     
  16. Furnaccio

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    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
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    Arsenal FC
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    Colombia
    yeah - 3rd game of group stage where we sealed our spot for the knockout round ;)
     
  17. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    it helped us get 1st place at least.
     
  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
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    FC Internazionale Milano
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    Colombia
    Borja has 2 goals in 6 games. Muriel in 18 has the same. Zapata has 0 goals in 5 games
     
  19. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Man...you havent understood that are different type of forwards....Muriel every time that have played have used as a wing......in the same ********ing position of cuadrado.

    Is like asked the same goals to pedro...that villa or costa scored.

    Your ps4 damaged your head
     
  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    People forgot the exellent match of borja in quito......were he assist james....and was exellent in pivots.

    Duvan wasnt the only one that helped us to qualify...
     
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  21. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia
    Id definitely take Borja over Bacca. Bacca doesn't add much. Borja can come in and make a difference
     
  22. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    is this a sign?

     
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  23. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    at least he isnt discarded...
     
  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    if its issue of late performances ....duvan is the one that shouldnt go.

    bacca and borja are in grear seasons.....duvan almoat always was sub in the second part of the semester
     
  25. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I am not looking at their seasons, but more their skillset. When Bacca plays for the NT, i don't feel he adds much to our play. Especially coming off the bench. Zapata can provide physicality, Borja can generate danger. Bacca hasn't really added anything that would give me hope if he came in late in the game with us needing a goal
     
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