Post-match: Mexico 3-US 0 9.6.19

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  1. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not much to say, not a lot of positives. Poor gameplay, poorly executed. Out played, out coached and just overall soundly beaten by a meh Mexico team. Thoughts or find any positives?
     
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  2. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    zero adjustments from gold cup the worst part. also weston still roughly anonymous
     
  3. USSoccerNova

    USSoccerNova Member+

    Sep 28, 2005
    Berhalter deserves most of the blame for yet another clown show of a performance. Very little offense and once again inept in our unwavering insistence to build out of the back. For years, we used to be better than the sum of our parts but Gregg’s “rigid system” clearly isn’t putting our players in a position to succeed.

    To improve, he needs to be more practical in his tactics, drop low performing auto-starters like Trapp and Zardes, integrate higher potential younger players as warranted, and greatly improve his in-game adjustments. Oh, and taking a little bit of accountability once in a while would be nice as well.

    P.S. Gregg’s assertion that Pomykal isn’t yet up to this standard is laughable!

    P.P.S. I hope they boo Gregg off the field like we did in DC!
     
  4. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It took Tata a lot less time to counter our strategy in this one. Once again Gregg has zero answers once he did. Extremely poor all around.
     
  5. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keep in mind, that was Mexico’s B team starting, saving their big guns for Argentina. My U14 girls team can play better out of the back with only two weeks of practice.
     
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  6. porkrind

    porkrind Member

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    As I wrote in PBP, bring on Matias Almeyda. At least we'd fight and play an exciting style.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you switch coaches, you switch the score. Berhalter is much worse tactically than Klinsmann.
     
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  8. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Do whatever it takes to hire Matias Almeyda and fire Berhalter as of two months ago
     
  9. porkrind

    porkrind Member

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Now that's quite a statement.
     
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  10. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The inability to beat Mexico's high press set the tone for the game. We were slower and not as quick to every ball. Total domination by Mexico.
     
  11. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A team significantly worse than the sum of its parts.

    Poor coaching - yes.

    Poor tactics - yes.

    Poor positioning - yes.

    Poor players (Zardes, Stefan) - yes.

    Craptacular.
     
  12. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Well, uh, that was a real bucket of turds. I was going to try to do a player by player stock up/down analysis, but I figure it's not worth it since so few guys actually improved their standing. I do think there are a few whose stock went up, though:

    --Sargent. He missed the PK, but overall was much more effective at winning the ball and combining with others than Zardes. No reason why he shouldn't be above Zardes in the pecking order now.

    --Lletget. Had some nice touches, passes, and tackles after coming on. Classed up central midfield a bit for the US after the other guys were flailing around in there. I think he needs to at least keep getting call-ups and maybe should get a shot at starting.

    I started writing up more positive takes on a couple others, but couldn't really do it.
     
  13. aarond23

    aarond23 Member+

    Feb 24, 2006
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The good news: They are playing it out of the back!
    The bad news: They are playing it out of the back!
     
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  14. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m just shocked at the results, never saw it coming. I thought they had hired the right candidate after an extensive search...........yep, sarcasm.
     
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  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why do we have to beat it? If a defense in tackle football is stacking the line to stop the run, you throw the ball.

    We played the way Mexico wanted us to play.

    I think the players knew they were ********ed; that’s why they played nervous, why one mistake begat another.

    We play to our weaknesses, not our strengths.
     
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  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah, Balboa's first comment on Univision post game was that we were expecting to take a step forward after the Gold Cup loss and instead we took 3 steps back.
     
  17. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hire Bob Bradley now.
     
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  18. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hire a loser coach, get loser results. I hate the USSF. Incompetency, greed, and incestuousness has ruin our national team.
     
  19. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Yeah at some point you gotta be less stubborn with player selection. Insisting on playing Will Trapp was not a good decision. He and Morales together was a bad decision.

    Zardes just doesnt add much unless the wings are going up and down the field.

    Tyler Boyd another bad game. Just doesnt have the work rate right now.

    Once again once we got more athletic players into the game we stated to do a bit better going forward but the coaches have to be better
     
  20. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is Zardes job? To me it appears he is a defender placed in the opponent’s back line to chase them but not really accomplishing crap. I don’t see anything else coming from him.
     
  21. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    My main observation: We need to kick the ball harder.
     
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  22. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    McKennie almost scored 3 goals for Mexico tonite.
     
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  23. kgbman

    kgbman Member

    Jul 31, 2006
    Miss the days where we at least went down swinging.
    (though props to Morales)
     
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  24. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Berhalter cannot make adjustments that successfully counter a good manager.

    However, our biggest problem is that we have too many talent black holes at various positions that are wasting the talents of some other very good young players.

    We’re also not thinking fast enough out there. My hopes are pretty low for our national team for the next few years...it’s depressing.
     
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  25. TMBMiles

    TMBMiles Member

    Dortmund
    United States
    Mar 31, 2017
    Berhalter has to sit Zardes and Trapp against Uruguay. Has to. He has pulled other guys out of the starting lineup before, after having poor games, but so far those two have been exempt from that treatment.

    They were both poor tonight, and Berhalter needs to show that those two won't continue to get preferential treatment because they're his guys.
     

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