You're right. I miss that era. In Italy Maradona had trouble each game also against teams very low in the standings. And I think it was the same in his early years in Argentina were the difenders were just as hard as in Italy. And P.s.: nobody since he left has been as good as Maradona. Absolutely the best player of modern football ( =since Ajax ). I think nobody came even close or is even close now.
Roby Baggio once interviewed that playing in this era, this so-called modern football (1994 onwards), is much more simpler than in 80's and that's one of the reasons why he can excel till his retirement in 2002. PS. I can't believe that I wasted my time replying this.
I think Messi will turn out to be better, but at the same age, Maradona had accomplished a lot more. Maradona developed much quicker than Messi, making his Argentina debut at 16 (I don't know if Messi made his u-20 debut at age 16) but Messi all of a sudden had a spurt from the ages of 17-19. They have really developed at different paces, which is normaly. It will be amuch more valid comparison 5 years from now. Do hope that Messi bulks up tho.
No use in having an argument with Paul, he just sticks to his "all knowing" and "I'm can't be wrong" picture of himself. He kind of disappeared from the Dutch board, for obvious reasons. He always cracks me up, though. Today is D-Day Paul, how are you doing?
Born 1987. World Youth Cup 2005. 2005-1987=18 (he actually turned 18 in the middle of the tournament) Might I suggest investing in this
And by reading jsut the first 2 pages of his 'argument' I can declare that he knows absolutely nothing about what he is talking about. Lanman way to stick it to him. Major reps. 'Oleguer is thus better than Maradona since he has won more before turning 20 than Maradona had when he turned that age' Only a moron would decide something based on titles won. Wow, I guess then LaVolpe could be considered a better goalkeeper than Goycochea since LaVolpe won a WC title in 78 as the third string gk while Goycochea never won the World Cup
This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard It is a fact that attacking midfielders are the least fit on the team?? Are you kidding me?
ok Let's get this straight Facing man-marking is a lot more difficult for players Like Messi and Maradona. Just look at what Ronaldinho did against Chelsea last season when they man-marked him?? Absolutely nothing and they only went through because by man-marking Ronaldinho, they weren't able to man-mark Messi. So according to Paul_NL, it is more of a feat to be an on-off starter on a top class team and win titles (sometimes playing just 7 out of 38 games) than it is to take a team that is more used to the second division and take them to second place in the entire country Tremendous logic on your behalf Paul_NL
exactly why they didn't make the semis also, what the hell does Atletico Bilbao results from 1983 have to do with this arguement at all?
after reading this comment, I've decided not to waste my time readin the alst 2 pages i haven't read yet. Tell me which teams have 6 to 8 internationals in their starting line-up in Spain?? Real Madrid, Valencia and Barcelona. Atletico Madrid perhaps (though it's pushing it).
I think the comparison shouldn't be make at all.. Facts and opinions all have mix up.. Everybody 'knows' football more than others.. Messi is Present and Maradona is Past.. So, based on my logic: Main () Begin If Past = Great then Go to Legend () Else Now = Great then Go To Promised () End if Facts = Interprete by Opinions Result = Randoms AND Infinite End Function Legend () Begin If Aged =< 19 then People NOT EQUAL to peak time Archivement != Different time AND League End Function Promised () Begin Go To Wait () End Get my logic??? darn.. I'm so bored right now.. The truth is I hate this arguement.. I like both Maradona and Messi and I don't care who is better than who.. Is it important? Maradona say Messi is great and Messi said Maradona is irreplaceable.. Oh.. Life is beautiful..
Well sometimes we need to act polite, use euphemisms in order to stay civilized. Keep that in mind, be civilized. I know that being a part of Boca and being civilized are very hard to achieve together. But just try and make the effort. You will thank me in the future. Secondly; classic no 10 players like Hagi, Maradona, Messi do not / did not have a good level of stamina. The classic no 10 may not carry the needed effort and work level as a defender-def. midfielder- libero-winger-back- forward. And that level of fitness is not very important for the attacking midfielder if he got the right skills. An unfit defender deserves second division. An unfit defensive midfielder deserves third division. An unfit attacking midfield can be WORLD CLASS. ( here unfit is used as in "the least fit" ) Hope you understood that now. I do not know what else I can do for you to understand this basic football knowledge.
The only thing I see here is hat you consider playing a minor role in a CL team at age 19 is better than having scored 100+ goals at the age 19