Measuring Success - The Arsenal (Emery) Barometer

Only because Juve always manages to sell their garbage for big amounts to smaller Italian sides. Its ridiculous. We don’t have that luxury.........or fraud.

 

Sounds good to me. Two places I really would like to go. But if I don't make it, you can send me the bill.

 

Why would they want a lot of the dregs they buy?

Be interesting to see how Barca go once they lose their once in a generation talisman.

 

Yes a failure. Yes, I would have said the same in August. Emery was given the money to spend to improve on Wenger's worst ever season. If his final finishes are no better than Wenger's worst ever season, then I will consider it a failure, even if the points total in the league is better.

Having said that, it's only his first season, so I don't want him gone or anything, just that his 1st season would count as a failure for me.

 

I wouldn’t call it a failure as we have improved in certain aspects and it’s his first full year

Look at the calibur of teams in the top 6 and our squad. I think we are doing about as well as can be expected

 

Many points better this season, +12 before the United match right? Or was it after? Either way, even without top 4 while it may not have been a smashing success... it's moving in the right direction. Arsenal don't have the squad to be performing MUCH better than where they are currently at. You could argue some results here or there should be better, but you could say that about everyone in the league.

Lots to address this summer... especially the backline. But still, successful transition season, for my outsider's perspective. And could still maybe steal top 4! Which would be huge, for summer recruitment and in general.

 

I think 'certain aspects' improving is such a low bar given the money Emery has had to spend.

It is also especially worrying given the fact that most of the money he's spent is on the defense, yet statistically, our defense is no better than Wenger's worst season.

 

There was a graphic that was on Sky Sports News on Monday(?) which had the stats through 30 games, comparing Wenger in 2018 to Emery in 2019. On each of 8 or so stats we were better under emery. Points, Standing, Goal Diff, Top 6 victories, etc, etc, etc.

I just tried to find that chart to post it but came up dry.

Anyway, I don't see how you can look at those comparative numbers and say that it's a failure.

 

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The performance vs. top 6 is the biggest difference.

Underlying data suggests that Arsenal were better under Wenger against non-top 6 teams.

 

I think we will finish 3rd, and I dontd know how I feel about it.

 

Or if RVP wasn’t a gigantic snake

 

Well he did... he went on to win 3 FA Cups.

 

If we just threw money at Suarez, we would've won the league for sure.

 

For reals. For all our faults, most of our scumbags over the last decade have been more idiots (Bendtner, Wilshere) than racists or violent prats.

 

totally agree

 

https://statsbomb.com/2019/03/how-much-have-arsenal-changed-under-unai-emery/

 

Back on track...

Serious KUDOS to Emery for putting out a creative attacking side in the last 2 hugely crucial matches, and winning them both!!

It's mid-March and he's got us in 4th place (with out fate in our hands) and into the last 8 of Europa Cup.

OK, it's not like we're absolutely tearing things up. Sure we can't quite declare a successful season yet. But he deserves props for getting us where we are right now.

 

People keep saying 6th is a fail, no CL is a fail, but what expectations do we have for next season should we finish 3/4 and win the EL?

 

Well, it depends on how we spend in the summer. The reason I expect more from him this year is because
1) We did spend a lot of money
2) I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a new manager to do better than the last guy who did so poorly he got fired

If supported, what I'd look for next season is top 4 again, do well in the UCL (at least quarter-finals, unless we play someone really tough in R16) and most importantly, a clearer sense of our football style and the ability to dominate games now and then. This whole season has been grinding one result after another.

Winning a domestic cup is a bonus. I won't hold it against him if we don't, but definitely a lot of extra love if he can bring in a trophy. In fact, if all he does this season is win the EL, even if we finish 7th, I'd consider it a success.

 

This is what I said before the season started, and there is no reason to move the goal post now. I think Emery is on track to having a success season, although nothing is guaranteed yet, and some of my parameters for success have not been met.