Measuring Success - The Arsenal (Emery) Barometer

Don't think Wenger ever completely lost the dressing room, and Emery had obviously done that a month ago. How long somebody survives losing the dressing room is more of an indictment of their bosses IMO

Have to correct my assertion on Freddie, apparently he does have all the requisite coaching licenses so he could manage us for the rest of the season

 

Hallelujah! To Emery's sacking, Freddie's appointment, and his full badges.

That us hopefully the end to the bleakest period if Arsenal football in memory.

Can I make a motion that we don't endlessly relitigate Emery's effect on our club, and it's future, like was done with Wenger?

Happy Holidays.

 

He was only was here for 18 months compared to 22 years so that wouldn't be necessary or appropriate. He was a good guy so I wish Unai the best in whatever managerial job he has next.

 

Wenger was our best ever manager and the reason the Emirates stadium still exists. He won the league at Old Trafford and, in our most famous season, won the league at White Hart Lane. That stuff only ever happens in cheesy movies.

Subsequent Arsenal managers will be compared to him until one comes along who is better. Even at the very end of his tenure, when he clearly needed to go, a significant portion of the fan base either: a) wanted him to stay, or b) was sad to see him go.

 

Saw an interesting piece on Freddie in the U23s, where there was a real learning curve and some really tough results early on, followed by the team turning into a juggernaut and blowing teams away.

I'm happy to have Freddie see out the season, especially if the alternative is Nuno.

 

On one hand yes, on the other hand he was captain, I wonder how the results would have gone with his leadership in the change room.

 

I don't think there are many people ready to forgive him. Or Xhaka for that matter, and to be honest, they don't deserve it.

Koscielny could acted like a professional, and captain, and gone on tour, smiled, waved, and had his agent work to secure his exit. No need to throw a tantrum. Emery being a shit manager doesn't excuse bad behavior from others.

 

ROFL

 

Mans a sexy beast, so yea.

 

I always supported Lolo.

 

It's going to be interesting to see how quickly the team reverts into something resembling a football squad. Is that Wenger DNA still present? Will they have some of that free-flowing play come back as soon as this weekend with the shackles off?

 

Agreed that he was a decent guy, though somewhere between ineffectual and damaging. And yes his impact should be so much less, thus should induce much less discussion going forward. I do suspect he's going to have to reinvent himself at a lower level having 2 high-profile failures in a row.

Also agreed, but I don't see the point in judging the current club/team performance, as dependent on something Wenger did or didn't do. It's nearly 2 years on, we have a very different squad, management structure, and last but not least another new coach... finally!

I'm just saying let's put our focus on the present and the future, rather than the past. Let's get behind Freddie and try to forget about how poor Emery was and how he deserves blame for where we are. In short, let's move on. As positively as we can.