MD5: Roma vs Atalanta (September 25th, 2019)

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  1. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

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    Nov 13, 2017
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    On to Atalanta.
     
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  2. Andreas

    Andreas Member+

    May 1, 2011
    Netherlands
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    Please tell me Smalling will make his debut.

    Also Spinazzola and Zaniolo should start.
     
  3. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
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    AS Roma
    This will not end 0-0
     
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  4. Matrim

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    Feb 10, 2014
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    AS Roma
    Only if we could've had someone who's decent at CB( better than some of our natural CBs, that's for sure), can pass, can lead the back-line and would've been ours for free, with us just paying not so over-whelming salary for him. And only if this person could've also played 10-15 games at midfield when we need experience and grinta there.

    Nah, it's good that we've saved 1-2mil/year from De Rossi's salary. The pleasure of having Juan Jesus giving free goals is totally worth it.
     
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  5. Bedelcigil

    Bedelcigil Member+

    Aug 21, 2014
    Cyprus
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  6. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3-1


    Bank it bitches!
     
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  7. Hustle and Flow

    Hustle and Flow Member+

    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    I know it's early, but if we're serious about taking back a top 4 spot, this would be a great place to start.
     
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  8. decola

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    Sep 12, 2006
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    #8 decola, Sep 23, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2019
    having watched the last two Atalanta games, this match doesn't worry me too much...
     
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  9. La Magica

    La Magica Member+

    Aug 1, 2011
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    They are generally slow starters. It's a good time.
     
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  10. Vulpinous

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    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
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  11. decola

    decola Member+

    Sep 12, 2006
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    Palomino was shockingly bad against Fiorentina
     
  12. tmontana52

    tmontana52 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Philly- the 215
    Club:
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    Pau
    Spinazzola - Smalling - Fazio - Kolarov
    Cristante - Veretout
    Zaniolo - Pellegrini - Mkhitaryan
    Dzeko​
     
  13. Andreas

    Andreas Member+

    May 1, 2011
    Netherlands
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    Kolarov could use some rest.
     
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  14. Matrim

    Matrim Member+

    Feb 10, 2014
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    It's not gonna happen. Florenzi is starting.

    And Juan Jesus as well.

    According to Gazzetta.
     
  15. L'immortale

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  16. Hustle and Flow

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    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    I have no idea what to expect from Smalling, but I do know what would've happened if Juan started.
     
  17. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get Kolarov is our best FB and arguably our best player but wth get Spinny if you are going to just run Kolarov into the ground again this year.
     
  18. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ugh.. he still has 2 years left on his contract too
     
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  19. decola

    decola Member+

    Sep 12, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Juan Jesus as reserve left back
     
  20. shiboboo

    shiboboo Member+

    Nov 13, 2010
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I liked what I read from Fonseca's presser today.
     
  21. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Kolarov is a beast. Playing again is not a problem for him, especially at this stage of the season. Very good chance, in fact very likely, that Spinny will start and it will be ahead of Florenzi I would think.

    It's potentially a very tough game for Smalling to debut but at this moment in time I feel like ABJJ.

    (Anyone but JJ)
     
  22. wm72

    wm72 Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    New York
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    A couple of thoughts on Bologna match and maybe something to look for against Atalanta:


    Defense for Fonseca, at least against teams were we have some talent advantage, subscribes quite heavily to the theory that you defend by attacking. The fullbacks are pushed quickly into very advanced wide spaces and the 2 midfield pivots are clearly told to turn forward with the ball as quickly as possible and use the long diagonal to a fullback if pressured. (I love the midfielders turning goal bound with the ball immediately as my pet peeve is the recycled ball back to CBs when there was a chance to turn and find a forward ball).

    The danger here is that the midfielders have to be strong on the ball and avoid turnovers and the overall effectiveness is in direct proportion to the accuracy of the long diagonal passes from the 2 deep pivot midfielders, the 2 CBs and the fullback that hasn't pushed up yet on occasion.

    It worked very well against Bologna until around the hour mark. The only very good chances I recall conceding came from a couple of lazy midfield passes and Florenzi getting completely removed on a dribble by Sansone once.


    In the second half -- and here is a concern and something to watch against Atalanta -- Bologna took a lot more risks in sending an extra player up to press around the center line. Of course, that meant tons of open space if we managed to break that pressure. We did it a few times but didn't make them pay but also had far too many inaccurate diagonals that were cut out by a Bologna defender running forward to start a counter.

    The Bologna goal was a good example in that Pellegrini had come back to the center line to help break pressure and tried a diagonal pass to Cristante running toward goal that would have set us up with a clear advantage (especially given Kolarov's extremely advanced positioning).

    However -- and maybe "blame" here is equally Pellegrini's pass as well as Cristante not getting there to receive it quickly enough -- the pass was cut out and that led to the jailbreak counter that resulted in the (bad) penalty.


    I also think Fonseca likely reacted by applauding Pellegrini/Cristante in that it was exactly the decision/pass he wanted but it didn't come off.


    Anyway, you also have to be sure that Gasperini (and other managers) are studying the effect the gang pressing Bologna employed in the second half had.
    I could be wrong but don't think Fonseca adjusts by keeping the wingbacks back any deeper but simply by saying that those passes have to be more consistently accurate and players more ready to get on the end of them.
     
  23. Hustle and Flow

    Hustle and Flow Member+

    Roma
    Feb 19, 2018
    Canada
    good post, my man.
     
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  24. Andreas

    Andreas Member+

    May 1, 2011
    Netherlands
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    Grazie mister :cool:
     
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  25. HeadBurn3r

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    Jul 19, 2014
    Novi Pazar
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    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Serbia
    Really excited to see what Smalling can offer.
     
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