EDF out? Watching EDF's Roma i'm reminded of Zeman, and how he tried to impart a philosophy but basically couldn't get the players on board. Compared with a manager like Rudi who had all the players on board, but no philosophy. We look exactly the same as last season, the team was riding their luck at the beginning of last season too with Kolarov free kicks and grinding out victories with our defence playing above their potential. The CBs just look awful to me this season, Fazio seems past it, Juan Jesus is fine but very slow and cumbersome... Marcano hasn't broken into the team either. I thought Pellegrini and Cristante grew into the game as it went on, but the attack looked so stale, there is just no movement. Florenzi chipped in with his usual once every 5 games accurate cross. El sharaawy just can't go past a player at all, i'm mystified by such a skillful and quick winger being unable to dribble an opponent?
Dzeko for me epitomises this Roma side more than any other. Perfectly sound and sometimes even great one minute, complete donkey the next. When we talk about blame: Letting Stroot go has and will hurt us. That's all on Monchi I would guess. EdF doesnt seem to know what he's doing at the moment. But the job of manager is often a thankless one. But the players go out and play. And they have been sh1t. I look for the right mentality before anything else. Something that has been desperately lacking thus far. Is that EdFs fault? Maybe. I'll just say that I believe in taking personal responsibility and leave it at. A fire needs to be (self)lit under these players asses quick or this will only get worse.
Oh, I can't argue that point. I was talking strictly in terms of play. Mentally we are as fragile as a porcelain doll.
I've posted it before; Juve are going to get 90 pts, they just are. That means as a team you get to drop 24 pts before you are officially out of the scudetto race. We have dropped 7 pts already, or nearly 1/3 of the pts we can drop for the season or 17 more points. The reality is if you drop points, any points, to bottom table teams it make it nearly impossible to even contend for the scudetto. That's why when people argue you must accept dropping points when you make changes to your roster they are essentially arguing that they have given up even competing for the scudetto before the season starts.
Yup. I've been arguing it for a long time. Strootman may not be the player he was but what he brings off the field in terms of leadership, attitude, professionalism and accountability cannot be replaced. For my money, Romans be damned, I would have made Strootman my captain.
Well, at least things escalated quickly this time, so that people with lower tolerance towards incompetence could give up on this season now and not bother to be tortured on weekly basis by this joke of a team. From the best to the worst midfield in the league in one summer. Let that sink in.
This isn't all on Monchi. This group of players is more than talented enough to beat the likes of Chievo. EDF deserves his share of blame. As I've said, people can argue how to allocate the percentage of the blame between Monchi and EDF but neither of them can be exonerated.
yea, Atalanta are turning out to be less than we all thought. 2-0 loss to SPAL, 1-0 to Cagliari. That draw stings even more right now and this team is in shambles.
No, as so many people said on this forum - we have had such a HARD start. The teams we have played were real world beaters. On a real serious note, am I the only one , who can honestly see us not even getting anywhere near 6th ? Seriously now.
We should put last years squad aside, as apart from Alisson, all the other goners were approved by EDF. This years squad he helped construct and it's not performing, he had a full pre season to test everything, but is still tinkering with everything. Shick was probably our most in form attacker in pre season and is still being played out of position. All in all the squad looks out of shape and our pressing seems very ineffective, Birsa's goal was embarrassing the way he was allowed all that time on the ball.
It’s fine, we don’t need 6th. UEFA are opening up a third competition. We’ll probably only need to finish 10th!
They haven't seemed to recover from being knocked out of Europe yet. They'll get in the flow again soon .
Rudis game was more than fine, he had a system that had total control over a game. It wasnt spectacular to watch but it is very difficult to get a team to understand that and do it on the pitch consistently. He just didnt have the wingers with intelligence to break down a team. Everything else was as good as we've had in terms of a manager. Give his team the wingers we have now and you're talking about a team that can challenge.
When it looked like he was going I thought, hhmm maybe this makes sense, I hate the timing, absolutely hate it but maybe it makes sense. Now though I get the feeling his absence has badly altered the dynamic in the squad. It was too much in one summer, just too much.
I’m still a bit bitter regarding Rudi. With a bit more support that summer, I think he could still be our coach today. Or maybe even if Perotti had arrived 6 months sooner. If there was ever a year to take a couple risks and go for the title, that was the one.
Honestly, this teams needs somebody that's going to beat a new attitude into this team and players. This draw comes down to not playing a full 90 mins. We outplayed them completely and just went into cruise control and squandered a win. This has been a problem for a long time and I'm not sure what the fix is but we never play 90 mins and it kills us.
I said as much on twitter after the goal happened, but it's simply ridiculous that El Sha was the player who made the most effort to close down Birsa on that goal. It's infuriating to watch.