MD21: Atalanta vs Roma (January 27th, 2018)

Discussion in 'AS Roma' started by Big Bad Wolf, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    And it took you five months to realise that?
     
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  2. Forzaabruzzo

    Forzaabruzzo Member+

    Apr 19, 2006
    I'm not sold on Karsdorp. At all...
     
  3. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

    Italy
    Nov 13, 2017
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    Marcano was on skates the entire game. Literally looked like he was playing the sport for the first time. Not sure wtf EDF was thinking playing him for the first time in months.
     
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  4. Forzaabruzzo

    Forzaabruzzo Member+

    Apr 19, 2006
    Unfortunately his options are rather limited...
     
  5. L'immortale

    L'immortale Red Card

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    Literally Olsen on the third goal.
     
  6. tmontana52

    tmontana52 Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Philly- the 215
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Just rewatched the 3rd goal... please someone explain to me what the actual F&CK Kolarov is doing.

    Loses possession, jogs back on defense, doesn’t track a single attacker, then gets mad when they score like its someone else’s fault.

    He needs to go
     
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  7. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Fazio was also one yellow away from a ban. That, the injury to JJ and Mano's injury proneness was the reason Marcano started I would think. He didn't want to risk losing Fazio too.
     
  8. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Yes, the only positive I would say. If we're to finish 4th it will probably come down to Dzeko more than anything.
     
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  9. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Look at both teams creative midfielders today. We had Lorenzo and they had Papu. The difference in performance from each player was massive. One was a constant danger, the other gave the ball away constantly.
     
  10. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I don't think so because you have to treat this game as a clash with a direct rival, so if you win it and even if you draw with Milan you are still in a good posiiton, and then there is the confidence from winning at Bergamo which would help going into the Milan game (not ignoring the Coppa game on Wednesday).

    Marcano can start aganst Entella, but that is his limit.
     
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  11. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's looked good at times and has struggled and considering he hasn't played for 2 years that's not too bad.

    I'm willing to give him a run of games to see what he can really do
     
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  12. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, Karsdorp needs time, but some of the others are a lost cause.
     
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  13. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    tbf, wasn't Pellegrini just recovering from the flu? I know it hit several players this week.
     
  14. shiboboo

    shiboboo Member+

    Nov 13, 2010
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Been saying this for months.
     
  15. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    He was clearly out of sorts today. I wasnt having a go Lo Pelle here. Merely pointing out the difference between both performances. If you wanna answer the question: why were Atalanta so dominant, I'd start there.
     
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  16. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    If you start Fazio there's a real chance he gets booked. Mano picks up a knock during the week and you're left with Marcano as your only available CB. Not a smart risk, so yes, I think so.
     
  17. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So why start Nzonzi and Cristante, both one yellow card away from suspension?
     
  18. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Because we have we more options in midfield. DDR, altho unlikely to have 90 mins in his legs, is at least available to take the field again and there's obviously less chance that both Nzonzi and Cristante get booked than there is one Fazio.
     
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  19. r0adrunner

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    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If that is the way EDF thinks then it is no wonder we are in such a mess!
     
  20. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
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    Hhmm, you'd have to elaborate there.

    Well wouldnt it be great if things were as simple as that old cliche, one game at a time. A season is long and, when you're fighting on three fronts especially, there will always be times during it when the manager has to make decisions for one game with the next game in mind.
     
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  21. whill4

    whill4 Moderator
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    AS Roma
    Sep 11, 2011
    Returning Video Tapes
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully this is where Dzeko turns around for the season. Old Dzeko will probably carry us the rest of the season and that's what we need more than anything.

    I have some sympathy for Karsdorp on his goal as that was more of a failure of the entire back line. Karsdorp had both Zapata and Castagne on his side initially while Manolas, Marcano, and Nzonzi were just ball watching. And Olsen failed completely in communicating that Castagne was looming right behind him until it was too late. This is where I really miss De Sanctis, we really need someone that knows how to organize defenses. The positioning is really awful, even under Alisson.

    I would also love to see a study done between Olsen and Stekelenberg to see who has the slowest reaction time. Science demands it.
     
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  22. FireTrapatoni

    FireTrapatoni Member+

    AS Roma
    Italy
    Jun 17, 2004
    Dzeko isn't going to help that much when you have no presence in the midfield and your goalkeeping and defense is suspect.

    We now rank 8th in possession in the league. Last year 3rd. Year before that 2nd. 2nd or 3rd pretty much every season in recent memory. We aren't controlling the games and as a result Dzeko is not going to get as many scoring chances as he has had in the past. We shouldn't be relying on counterattacks as our only method of scoring. The midfield has a lot to do with it.
     
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  23. Java65

    Java65 Member+

    Oct 2, 2012
    North Carolina
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't take it as you taking at shot at Pellegrini, I was just pointing it out. I do agree that was a major difference.. then again Gomez if a fantastic player, IMO.
     
  24. HeadBurn3r

    HeadBurn3r Member

    Jul 19, 2014
    Novi Pazar
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Serbia
    What are you talking about? He might not be the best at defending but he is the only one who can take those long-range passes to Dzeko or Zaniolo which frees us from agressive pressure other teams engage. I cannot imagine what our defence would look like if it wasn’t for him.

    Can’t you see each productive attack starts from him on the left side. Believe it or not, he is our best FB, which is sad. Roma eighter cheap out on FB what is maybe the most important role in modern football, or 10+ million addition turns to be a bust. Kolarov can still be used.

    Our defence is generally hilarous, including Kolarov as a part of it. Individuals in midfield such as Nzonzi and Cristante do a decent job, but somehow gets easily overrun, they seem to be non existant against every team. That needs to change, they’re not a good fit together even though their individual performances are good to very good.
     
  25. Big Bad Wolf

    Big Bad Wolf Member+

    Dec 17, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    I know, just wanted to clarify. He is and we allowed him to play far too much today.
     

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