Match 62: CRO : ENG - CAKIR (TUR)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018: Refereeing' started by balu, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    It would have been interesting if England contested that dropped ball
     
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  2. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. OkieZebra

    OkieZebra Member

    Aug 11, 2013
    Club:
    Norwich City FC
    Might get a law tweak out of it had they done so.
     
  4. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fact that this corner wasn't ready to be taken after all that...
     
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  5. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, how much stoppage will we see?
     
  6. Ickshter

    Ickshter Member+

    Manchester City
    Mar 14, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time to see some world class time wasting now. over/under on how many leg cramps the Croatians get now... I have it at 5.
     
  7. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He put on 2 in the first extra time half, right? With that precedent, he's looking at 5 minimum and it's about to get worse...
     
  8. OkieZebra

    OkieZebra Member

    Aug 11, 2013
    Club:
    Norwich City FC
    Not sure that making Pickford retake the FK after he got foul made a ton of sense. He moved it up even further, which seems to go against the "line" looking signal that was given as the reason for a retake.
     
  9. Count Chocula

    Count Chocula Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nah, not enuf for a penalty IMO
     
  10. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Missed the call on the corner. Wow.
     
  11. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    The free kick was touched before leaving the penalty area. It must be retaken.
     
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  12. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
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    May 25, 2006
    4 min on a 15 min period.
     
  13. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    I liked that he has been very explicit at looking at his watch to show he's paying attention. But 4 seems soft to me.
     
  14. OkieZebra

    OkieZebra Member

    Aug 11, 2013
    Club:
    Norwich City FC
    Did similar after the scrum at 120+, just to give him time to get downfield.
     
  15. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Final could be ugly...
     
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  16. Count Chocula

    Count Chocula Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well the "right" team won, tbh. Croatia way outplayed England in the 2nd half. they were more aggressive, quicker to the ball, and better with possession

    England was playing not to concede from the moment they scored the first goal
     
  17. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, give a couple sentences about Cakir & crew, then head back to the assignments thread:

    Cakir & crew - Overall, decent job - game result was fairly determined by the teams, not by the ref crew. Some nits to pick, but no one got away with murder. Assuming no big mess-ups over next few years, he'll be back with a good shot at the Final depending on team progressions.
     
  18. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m curious what is the read on letting Delle Ali? And the Croatian player start pulling each others’ shirt toward the end in the scrum. No cards because minute 122?
     
  19. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Or because it is WC 2018 . . .
     
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  20. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
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    May 25, 2006
    Do you think the refs are even carrying red cards with them? :p
     
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  21. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Maybe not, but Cakir had his whistle just in case :ROFLMAO:
     
  22. GearRef

    GearRef Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Jan 2, 2018
    La Grange Park, Illinois
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busacca hired police officers to search all referees before walking out to ensure no one is carrying any red cards.
     
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  23. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Not only has there been a single VAR intervention in the knockout stage, but, to my knowledge, there hasn't even been a single OFR of any decision. Not only has something not been changed, they haven't even bothered to send something down.

    To be fair, other than the incessant holding, there haven't been that many challenges in the penalty area that I thought warranted a review by VAR. The defenders have been more careful in the penalty area on challenges on the ground.

    The only ones that come to mind is the Kompany challenge on Gabriel Jesus in the Belgium vs. Brazil game where the ball was going out of play. Other than that there is not that even comes close to "that's a penalty." Aerial challenges not included.

    One credit that should be given is to the ARs in this tournament. We haven't actually had that many reviews for offside or onside decisions.

    A lot of it is luck, where the attackers don't score on plays where they were either off or on and the flag didn't go up or stay down depending on what the correct decision should be.

    But completely agree with your post. I thought it was going to be more conservative than what we have seen in MLS or Serie A, but I didn't think that they basically didn't even bother using it.

    The sad part is that they will hail it as a success.

    I have to think Murphy's Law is due to rear it's head on the Final. Something has to occur where it will put the VAR in a bind.
     
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  24. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Wait. There was one OFR in the KO stages and that was on the location of the foul that led to the only red card given all KO stages by Skomina. Changed the location of the foul from inside to outside on the push by a Swiss defender on a breakaway.
     
  25. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course I forget the one match I was in the stadium for. I was actually going to come back and give some comments on how I felt Skomina did, from that perspective. Totally forgot and I barely remember now.
     

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