Match 62: CRO : ENG - CAKIR (TUR)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018: Refereeing' started by balu, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're instructed to delay raising the flag which is exactly what he did.
     
  2. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also could just have been incorrect decision from pass to Kane. We'll never know.
     
  3. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    flag / alerting the ref, didn't happen until after the second shot. They just showed a pretty good slow mo.
     
  4. Ghastly Officiating

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Oct 12, 2017
    Maybe it’s because I was looking for the words but on the replay showing the AR he looks like he says “offside”
     
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  5. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. Multiple reasons it was obvious this is not what happened.
     
  6. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Nope, the FK was taken well outside the 6. Also Çakır was signaling offside.
     
  7. oxwof

    oxwof Member

    Sep 6, 2014
    Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Missed a pretty substantial hold by England in the buildup there.
     
  8. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just think how different things would be had Collina taken the extra 45 seconds to explain the delayed offside flag during the pre-WC press conference. All of the incorrect statements about the ARs keeping their flag down reference back to that poor explanation from Collina.
     
  9. BetterRefThanPlayer

    Aston Villa
    United States
    May 27, 2018
    Was clearly an indirect free kick. He called offside and properly delayed the flag til the scoring opportunity was over. No debate. (offside call is debatable though)
     
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  10. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. And ARs have also been waiting and waiting and waiting all tournament to raise the flag in case it ends up being a goal.
     
  11. Count Chocula

    Count Chocula Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am guessing he was delaying the offside decision for a possible VAR check
     
  12. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    I realize he was calling the OS. But he was horribly wrong and I no longer have faith VAR would correct it.
     
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  13. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully. Either way England lost a corner.
     
  14. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    Wow, that FIFA instruction must be pretty dogmatic because Cakir is not reffing like he normally would.
     
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  15. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Textbook example of the revenge foul by Croatia - player thought he had been fouled at other end, came back and took down Young for England. Ever see this in your matches? Besides all the time, I mean.
     
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  16. BetterRefThanPlayer

    Aston Villa
    United States
    May 27, 2018
    Better than losing a goal
     
  17. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Ever see it and not caution it? :rolleyes:
     
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  18. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's really hard to take you seriously when you're calling this a "horribly wrong" offside decision.

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  19. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I'd like to think that I've cautioned revenge fouls every time, there are times that I have probably been alert to the foul, whistled quickly and then told the offender to stop being stupid.
     
  20. Count Chocula

    Count Chocula Member+

    May 7, 2010
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lovren complaining to ref at half, apparently unaware he was gifted at least one if not two non-cautions that half
     
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  21. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Why do they even bother with a check on set pieces for holding? Wasting everyone's time. We all know no penalty will be given.
     
  22. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Despite that, he had a legit complaint. He was mugged
     
  23. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would've gone to VAR though if that happened.
     
  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This!!! Here we have one of the top five CRs in the world and he won't even card obvious rough play. Disgusting.
     
  25. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pardon me, but doesn't that show Kane exactly even with the defender? no playable surface past the defender, ties go to the attacker, etc. Are you saying that's offside? If so, please edumacate me
     
  26. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    I’m getting a tad tired of it too. Why bother? It’s an unreal waste of time.
     

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