Match #51 - NED : MEX - PROENCA (POR)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014: Refereeing' started by Alberto, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Match #51 - 29 June 2014 12:00 EDT - Fortaleza

    Officials
    • Referee: Pedro PROENCA
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      POR
    • Assistant Referee 1: Bertino MIRANDA (POR)
    • Assistant Referee 2: Jose TRIGO (POR)
    • Fourth official: Carlos VERA (ECU)
    This thread is for all pre-match, play-by-play and post-match discussion and analysis of the refereeing team. Per the forum guidelines (http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/welcome-forum-guidelines.2003380/), this thread will be heavily moderated. For more general or partisan discussions of the match, please go to the general Group thread or the individual team forums.
     
  2. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    Yes, the foul is on Mexico. Mexican player has launched himself, way early too. Dutch player is not under cutting him, just trying his best to stay out of the way, limit the impact.
     
  3. Kempa

    Kempa Member

    Sep 6, 2007
    Washington Suburbs
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    19' Mexico ball in the PA, trying to go with the head. Dutch player kicks the ball almost at Mexican's head.
     
  4. OkieZebra

    OkieZebra Member

    Aug 11, 2013
    Club:
    Norwich City FC
    Whistle went to his mouth, then no call right above the Mexican PA.

    Want a replay.
     
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  5. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    That was atrocious.
     
  6. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    20th minute, non-call in the Dutch box. Mexico player has his head down a bit, but that looks like a pretty high boot!
     
  7. Bradley Smith

    Bradley Smith Member

    Jul 29, 2013
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Looked like it was a foul to me live, but it appeared the AR must've said something over the headsets, referee hesitated, then dropped the whistle and motioned to play on.
     
  8. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    No piadm as Mexico does not pull out of challenge, right? So does he get kicked? Looks like he does.
     
  9. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    22 minute, agree,
    sure looked like a foul, should have been a Dutch FK just outside the PA.
     
  10. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    A bit of a wobbly start for proenca. Hope this one doesn't get away from him. I'd guess this game will get rougher as Netherlands gets tireder.
     
  11. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    32nd minute, Water Break!
     
  12. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    (I think I will go out and buy a Kia Sorento, btw)
     
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  13. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Is that her name?
     
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  14. The Royal We

    The Royal We Member

    Aug 2, 2012
    43rd minute. A stronger whistle might have stifled some of that silliness.
     
  15. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Penalty call on Robben. Seemed a good shout on Replay. hmm.
     
  16. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
  17. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    That was a penalty for Holland
     
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  18. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    yeah, clearly a "false negative" on that one
     
  19. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    Robben fouled in the box. Twice.
     
  20. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    And that long injury stoppage only added an additional 30 seconds
     
  21. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Clear penalty even though Robben didn't have the ball.
     
  22. La Rikardo

    La Rikardo Moderator

    May 9, 2011
    nj
    Didn't look like the players were all that interested in extending the half further.
     
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  23. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Wow both tackles were clearly PK worthy
     
  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wow, I hope that missed penalty call doesn't end up deciding this match. Maybe Robbben's proclivity as a diver caused Proenca to dismiss it but that was the wrong decision.
     
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  25. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    In the slo mo it's a clear penalty. In real time, it looked like three players colliding.
     

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