Match 29: BEL : TUN - MARRUFO (USA)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018: Refereeing' started by code1390, Jun 22, 2018.

  1. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 code1390, Jun 22, 2018
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 22, 2018
    Match #29
    Belgium : Tunisia
    Saturday, 23 June 2018
    15:00 local time (08:00 EDT)
    Moscow (Otkritie)

    Referee: Jair Marrufo (USA)
    AR1: Corey Rockwell (USA)
    AR2: Juan Zumba (SLV)
    Fourth Official: Andres Cunha (URU)
    Reserve AR: Nicolas Taran (URU)

    Video Assistant Referee: Mark Geiger (USA)
    AVAR 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
    AVAR 2: Joe Fletcher (CAN)
    AVAR 3: Felix Zwayer (GER)
     
  2. GearRef

    GearRef Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Jan 2, 2018
    La Grange Park, Illinois
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Baka_Shinpan

    Baka_Shinpan Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Between the posts
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Did they kick off on the countdown and not the whistle?
     
    cleansheetbsc repped this.
  4. elonpuckhog

    elonpuckhog Member

    Dec 29, 2009
    That looked outside the box to me.
     
    HoustonRef repped this.
  5. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still have no idea. Which means it wasn't a clear and obvious error.
     
  6. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    I think you’d find a split here. Many officials would have considered it out.
     
  7. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Looked like a PK to me but maybe this is one that is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  8. Kempa

    Kempa Member

    Sep 6, 2007
    Washington Suburbs
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think a lot of the foul was at least over the PA line, so yes to the PK. The VAR didn't even call Marrufo to look at the monitor.
     
  9. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    How was that not obstruction on Hazard?
     
  10. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question of in or outside the penalty area never results in calling the CR to the monitor. It is a question of fact and the VAR simply informs the CR of the answer.
     
    Geko repped this.
  11. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obstruction?
     
  12. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I didn’t hear the whistle but he sure looked like he was still starting his watch
     
    Baka_Shinpan repped this.
  13. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We finally get the camera angle that Geiger would have used. The foot contact is close, but the upper body/hip contact is inside the penalty area.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It was. He played advantage.
     
  15. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it was in. Obviously VAR team agreed.

    One thing I find interesting is the position of the cameras. Take a look at the bottom of this page. There are two ultra slo-mo cameras positioned perpendicular to the penalty area, but they are both on AR2's side. There doesn't seem to be an equivalent on AR1's side. Unless I'm missing something, this exact type of play would get a much more conclusive angle if it was on the far side of the field than if it was on the near side:

    https://football-technology.fifa.com/en/innovations/VAR-at-the-World-Cup
     
  16. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Good non-call on Vertongan
     
    IARef96 repped this.
  17. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't have a dissent card from Marrufo inside 15 minutes in the betting pool.

    He's doing very well.
     
    dadman, Baka_Shinpan and IARef96 repped this.
  18. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.
     
  19. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I couldn’t tell, was it dissent or the foul that stopped the play.

    Optics certainly say dissent but I missed who committed the foul.

    Good for Marrufo either way.
     
  20. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Check complete"
     
    IARef96 repped this.
  21. IARef96

    IARef96 Member

    Oct 19, 2010
    Clive, IA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can’t wait for the offside graphic on that one.
     
  22. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Marrufo certainly didn’t end up with a throw away match. The intensity is off the charts and the Tunisians are barking at every call.
     
  23. IARef96

    IARef96 Member

    Oct 19, 2010
    Clive, IA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! On by a “foot”!
     
  24. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really like how Lukaku said he wasn't diving... despite the fact that there was contact. Pretty sporting.
     
    dadman, fairplayforlife and RefIADad repped this.
  25. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tunisian defenders with arms raised for an offside appeal on Courtois’ GOAL KICK to Lukaku.

    And players wonder why we don’t take them seriously.
     
    DefRef, voiceoflg and Jean-Yves Ferry repped this.

Share This Page