Match 26: SRB : SUI - BRYCH (GER)

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  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #1 MassachusettsRef, Jun 21, 2018
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    Match #26
    Serbia : Switzerland
    Friday, 22 June 2018
    20:00 local time (14:00 EDT)
    Kaliningrad

    Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
    AR1: Mark Borsch (GER)
    AR2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
    Fourth Official: Nawaf Shukralla (BHR)
    Reserve AR: Yaser Tulefat (BHR)

    Video Assistant Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
    AVAR 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
    AVAR 2: Carlos Astroza (CHI)
    AVAR 3: Clement Turpin (FRA)
     
  2. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Video Assistant Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
    AVAR 1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
    AVAR 2: Carlos Astroza (CHI)
    AVAR 3: Clement Turpin (FRA)
     
  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    United States
    This could be a terrible game of football, but I'm fascinated to see how a referee as good as Brych manages a game with two very physical teams.
     
  4. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    Wait. Did AR2 just shag a ball for the Serbian gk?
     
  5. Jean-Yves Ferry

    Jean-Yves Ferry New Member

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    France
    Jun 21, 2018
    Fairly clean game so far. Crisp challenges on the ball. Easy to ref...
     
  6. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    I'm glad to see that's still a yellow.
     
  7. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
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    Manchester United FC
    Brych must not have gone to the pre-tournament meeting where they took everyone’s cards away.:)
     
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  8. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    Or he knows that he's the 1st and 2nd best referee in the world and doesn't feel the need to impress Busacca and he's just going to referee his game.
     
  9. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

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    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
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    United States
    In the last month, Brych has been on a field where flares were being fired on the field by irate Hamburg supporters and never changed expression. I’m guessing he is not easily flustered by dumb instructions :) .
     
  10. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    Love the double bear hug. At some point that’s gotta be given.
     
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  11. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Well...they're consistent on not calling the holding.
     
  12. Jean-Yves Ferry

    Jean-Yves Ferry New Member

    PSG
    France
    Jun 21, 2018
    How was this two-manwich tackle/hold not a reviewable foul for PK?
     
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  13. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    Yeah, looked like a PK to me .
     
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  14. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Well, if he lets two defenders wrap arms and pull an attacker down, then calls a foul on the attacker, then - actually I don't know what "then" is here.
     
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  15. HoustonRef

    HoustonRef Member

    May 23, 2009
    The bear hugs came before the elbow to the head.
     
  16. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    That one was more blatant that Kane's. I'm guessing the foul Brych called was when the Serb put his arm up into the face, but a clear and obvious holding foul occurred before that.
     
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  17. Jean-Yves Ferry

    Jean-Yves Ferry New Member

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    France
    Jun 21, 2018
    Egregious non-call from the all-German refereeing crew, VAR included. Credibility of VAR is on the line here!
     
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  18. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    His arm couldn't go anywhere else because the defenders' hugs prevented him from dropping his arms any lower. Which I mean both facetiously and actually.
     
  19. Baka_Shinpan

    Baka_Shinpan Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Between the posts
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I'm wondering whether there would be a hesitancy among the German VAR's to flag something for the more senior German Center, whereas a non German who isn't familiar with him more likely to say something.

    We all have referees that we know where we know what they want help with and when to just not say anything.
     
  20. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
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    Sweden
    Oh it was reviewable, it just wasn't reviewed. :D
     
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  21. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    That not being a 2CT on Matic is noteworthy.
     
  22. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2007
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    On the flip side, this very same VAR seemed quite happy not getting involved with the Croatia-Argentina ref yesterday.
     
  23. Jean-Yves Ferry

    Jean-Yves Ferry New Member

    PSG
    France
    Jun 21, 2018
    From a partiality perspective, what is the wisdom of putting an all German referee crew on this game?
     
  24. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
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    Everyone knows my overall stance on VR, I think. But let's not pretend this wasn't reviewed and--for aerial challenges--inconsistent with the standard set thus far. Brych's call of a foul coming out is defensible, though obviously not ideal. There was no way the VAR was going to intervene there. We all may not like it (quite obviously), but it's the reality of how VR is being implemented at this tournament.
     
  25. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Nat'l Team:
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    Huh?
     

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