You mean on this? I haven't see this movie. But I know that they have one interview with Eusebio where he said how he became happy in Croatia Toronto club. Jakov Sedlar is a good film director. And this documentary shows the struggle of Croats against Yugoslavia.
About foibe, people could not know until the 1990, it was pressured down, so that such historic moments become forgotten. This mentality often seemed as insane. Similar is with Croatian event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_repatriations That's why Croatia has numerous diaspora. If someone had different identity from that Yugoslav, he needed to leave. Croats, Italians, Germans were treated especially bad, since they were allies during the WWII. Human status ended on animal status, status of barbarians, savages, which is pretty sad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foibe_massacres Entire Yugoslav "identity" was organized and created in Serbia. Belgrade became the capital of Yugoslavia. Later was this changed into Great Serbia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Serbia Canadian club of Serbs White Eagles is based on paramilitary formations who operated in Croatia during the 90's. This name is insane for every western part of world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Eagles_(paramilitary)
I know Partisan Belgrade was named after the "anti-fascist" militia. More like anti-culture, ethnic cleansers. And Red Star Belgrade was founded by the state police. Both teams have the red star of totalitarianism. Btw. I'm not anti-Serb, just anti-communist.
The truth about the Partizan Belgrade and Red Star is that they became regime and military clubs, based on communism. Both founded in 1945. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_Belgrade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Partizan Their colours were taken from PAOK and Olympiakos. At first they pretended to be filled with solidarity, social rights, working class promoting activities, but at the end of 80's, early 90's, fans of both clubs showed their real sentiment, Greater Serbia, Chetnik movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks Sinisa Mihajlovic promoted this sentiment, he even managed that the fans of Lazio show the admiration towards Zeljko Raznjatovic Arkan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkan Yugoslavia changed the real name of Croatian club Dinamo Zagreb. At first, it was HSK Gradanski Zagreb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HŠK_Građanski_Zagreb It was dissolved in 1945, of course and changed into Dinamo Zagreb. In the 90's, the name Dinamo was changed into Croatia. But the fans wanted to return Dinamo Zagreb, because of the memory on the struggle of Croats for their state, against Yugoslavia and because of that fan riot event against Red Star Belgrade in 1990. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo–Red_Star_riot Croatian footballers boycotted the World Cup in 1930, Uruguay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Football_Federation "In 1929, following disagreements between the Zagreb and Belgrade sub-federations, the Football Association of Yugoslavia was dissolved. It was then re-established in May 1930 in Belgrade, this time with the Serbian-language name Fudbalski savez Jugoslavije." The headquarters was originally in Zagreb, Croatia, but Serbs could not accept that fact, so they just dissolved and re-established another one in Belgrade. Census in Croatia was funny to be seen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Croatia In 1948, there were no any Yugoslavs as declared individuals. Same as in 1953, but the fruits of brainwashing became slightly relevant in 1961, where 15500 people declared as Yugoslavs, the culmination happened in 1981, where 379 000 declared as Yugoslavs. Mostly based on mixed ethnic marriages, brainwashing and constant promotion of that "ideal" nation, country. If we observe overall Yugoslavia, with all states, there were 1,2 millions of Yugoslavs, who accepted that sentiment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia From 1971 - 1981. the difference became relevant, from 273 000 to 1,2 million. Obviously artificial process. If you become relevant factor, who was against Yugoslav regime, you would end on this island. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goli_otok Female figures were on this island. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveti_Grgur Very strange period, made of regime poets, artists, musicians, politicians, sports figures. Of course, some sports figures were not accepted in Yugoslav team, if they demonstrate democratic values. There were moments, where Croats tried to move out from Yugoslavia. 1971 - Croatian Spring. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Spring Richard Nixon wanted to visit Zagreb also, not only Belgrade, during the Yugoslavia. Strong political message for the Croats. First US president who visited Yugoslavia in 1970. This was in Zagreb, observe the number of Croats on the streets. In 1:08 he said Zivjela Yugoslavia, zivjela Croatia - Long live Yugoslavia, long live Croatia. It culminated in 90's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence Yugoslavia started to build series of monuments in honour of Yugoslavia, it started with Serbian sculptors, like Dusan Dzamonja, Vojin Bakic, Bogdan Bogdanovic... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yugoslav_World_War_II_monuments_and_memorials_in_Croatia Alleged messages of heroism, admiration...so if people observe this statues for decades, they really started to admire to these monuments, this movement. Even one Italian of Croatia accepted the idea of Yugoslavia, he became Yugoslav hero, Matteo Benussi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_People's_Heroes_of_Yugoslavia_monuments_in_Croatia Yugoslav Partisans were proclaimed as liberators, heroes, people with distinguished values. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans Almost every Croat lost someone in the WWII, and in those few years after, retaliation, revenge of Partisans against opponents. But even today, there are some people who like Yugoslavia, because they got free apartments, good job positions in that period, so their children say the positive thoughts about that privileged status. Today, they need to work for their salary and real estates.
@Gilbertsson You might like this thread. http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/new-politics-thread.2031839/page-308
Yes, I saw this thread. But I was involved in football mostly. In USA, there are a lot of Yugoslav people, who share that sentiment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Americans 328 000 Yugoslavs 414 000 Croats, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavs It's interesting to realize the reason, why Croatia has higher migration effect. Funny to notice, Yugoslavs in capitalist countries: USA, Canada, Australia. I wonder do they have Trabant, Lada, Yugo, Zastava vehicles...or desires maybe have escalated into Cadillac Escalade. They left collapsed economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia There are plenty of Google Books for these decades.
Watching the show Dribbling on Rai and there is a special on Maradona during his time at Napoli. They show him juggling and trying different skills. I must say, the things he did with the ball are pretty incredible. Other than maybe Pele, Cruyff and Best, I don't think anyone has ever matched what he could do.
Whether Diego is Italian descent or not, he is a Napolitano through and through....Nice to see him back in Naples! Maradona, tifosi in delirio a Napoli «Felice di essere tornato a casa» Maradona torna a Napoli, assurdo ciò che hanno fatto alcuni tifosi ... Maradona è tornato a Napoli: bagno di folla sul lungomare
http://ethnicelebs.com/diego-maradona https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_(name) His brother played for Toronto Italia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raúl_Maradona Hugo Maradona played for Deportivo Italia, Toronto Italia. Earlier I thought that Maradona surname has origins from Calabria, Sicily, Napoli region. Donnarumma http://cognome.alfemminile.com/w/cognomi/363-napoli/cognomi-piu-diffusi.html 226. Franco Many known surnames in Italy and abroad has Napoli origins. Coppola, Ferrara, Massa, Fiore, Barone, Ranieri, Grimaldi, Pastore, Perrotta, Mancini, etc. Paumgardhen should be Baumgarten maybe. Maybe these ones are his children, grandchildren. The numbers seem objective. 190.
Lat time Maradona was at Napoli, they won a scudetto. Can they do the same with him as an ambassador? Maradona welcomed 'home' by Napoli fans for anniversary Diego Maradona in talks with Napoli over return Maradona to be Napoli ambassador
I see match fixing story about Toronto Croatia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Croatia So this club is dissolved now?
I think it's dissolved. The entire league they play in, CSL, is not recognized by FIFA or any Canadian soccer body. There are allegations of match fixing in the entire league. lol. I heard that the board of Toronto Croatia are starting a Croatian league in the Toronto area.
History of many Croatian football clubs abroad has that closing status. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Croatian_soccer_clubs_in_Australia It's all about the desire for fast earning. All ethnic clubs in Australia are out of the big picture, because they have ethnic names. Australia wants to create assimilation. This is the official Australian league. http://www.soccerstats.com/latest.asp?league=australia Similar is with Italian clubs in Australia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_Soccer_clubs_in_Australia For example, this school has only Croats and Italians. Small percent belong to the Irish community. http://web.hfbellpark.catholic.edu.au In November children wear football jersey of their homeland. https://www.mltav.asn.au/croatian/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=157&Itemid=180 Hard to believe that Canada has such issues with match fixing. I thought that these habits are brought from home. It's hard to figure their leagues, regional, county...
http://www.football-italia.net/97001/maradona-be-napoli-ambassador http://www.ansa.it/english/news/201...ame_ed335f55-7886-459c-9184-fa7a0949b2bf.html
http://www.asteriscos.tv/dossier-3.html Cerca de 20 millones de personas que viven en la Argentina descienden en distinto grado de italianos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Argentine_people_of_Italian_descent Messi is of mainly Italian descent. His parents are: Jorge Horacio Messi and Celia Maria Cuccittini. Angelo Messi is the son of Pacifico Messi and Lucia Catena. Angelo was born in Recanati, Marche (Italy). Angelo married Maria Latini around 1890 year. Maria Latini was the daughter of Raffaele Latini and Rosa Donati. They came in Rosario, Argentina in 1893 year. Grandparents of Lionel: Eusebio Italo Messi and Rosa María Pérez Mateu (the daughter of José Pérez Solé and Rosa Mateu i Gesé). Lionel’s great-grandmother Rosa was born, c. 1910, in Blancafort de Tragó de Noguera, Catalonia, Spain, making Lionel of 1/8th Spanish Catalan ancestry. Lionel’s maternal grandparents were Antonio Cuccittini and Celia Ramona Oliveira. Oliveira sounds Portuguese, but he is mainly Italian. I remember that he wanted to play for AC Milan in one period.
Donadoni was a winger and Conte was nothing more than a hardworking CM who had a nack of scoring big goals who intangibly developed into an incredible leader. As far as I'm concerned this group of players mentioned above could not have been on opposite ends of the spectrum. Why is Redondo even mentioned? This list of players really makes no sense. Don't understand the point here.
Well from quickly reading it, he said today there are mostly aggressive players that posting, there are not players like Redondo, who was one of the best in his position in any period. Injuries robbed him of his full recognition I suppose. A complete player.