Mansueto In

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by Pennsylvania Dave, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    it'd be interesting if any of the brand research data was made public

    many people who don't follow the MLS figure the current logo for a Chicago Fire Department apparel -- it cannot score well on recognition for non-fans, especially outside the Chicago area
     
  2. moleman

    moleman Member

    Jan 7, 2017
    Fair, but the Fire don’t have that problem. All red is perfect for a team called the FIRE. If they’re changing the name I get the change in colors, but if you’re keeping the name why would you change it from literally the perfect color for the name?
     
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  3. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    My favorite fact about that event was that none of them were soccer players. They were all actual models.
     
  4. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Almost. Perhaps more bizarrely, the back row are real players, the front row are models.

    L-R Ramos, Wegerle, Harkes, Burns, Sorber
     
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  5. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That's amazingly bizarre.
     
  6. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If you were worth 3.5 BILLION dollars (as Mansueto is allegedly...from memory <disclaimer>) and invested that capital in a Money Market that paid 10% (the current average payout interested over a term) that would be 3,500,000,000 x .10 = 350,000,000 in other words if he doesn't touch the capital he makes 350M a year in interest. He's got the dough...
     
  7. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That is not a fact at all.
    Beat me to it.
    After Harkes, it took me two or three looks to pick out the rest.
    Good job.
     
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  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't disagree with any of this, of course.

    With new ownership, a relocation and (hopefully) new management, there is no need for rebrand.

    Just advertise the crap out of the team and things will improve.
     
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  11. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Correct if he got a 10% return, very possible over the long term investing moderately aggressively. That said, no money market in the world is returning 10%. For FDIC, you're looking at 1.85%. For SIPC, maybe 2.25%. Also, expect another rate decrease at the next Fed meeting.

    Edit: In Germany and Japan, cash deposit rates have actually gone negative. You have to pay to keep your money out of the market.
     
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  12. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #62 firefan2001, Sep 21, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2019
    1. He won't have 3.5 billion, he would have 3 billion after spending a half a
    billion getting the FIRE.

    2. 10% really? The best I ever had was 6% and this was 20 years ago. Like GHjelm said it's more like 1.85%.
    3. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have 3.5 billion in cash in a money market.
    4. I doubt that he would spend 1/2 billion to let it go to hell.
     
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  13. Vio bank 2.52 APY as of last week. (FDIC insured)
     
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  15. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    They must be short on cash :)
     
  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "Whatever the benefits of the team’s deal with ESPN Plus, with which the Fire signed on for three years in 2018, it has been a big minus in terms of exposure.

    "Die-hard fans might have signed up and figured out how to watch on their phones, smart TVs or whatever. For everyone else, it was out of sight, out of mind and out of the question.

    "Think of how many more would-be fans would be exposed to the Fire if their games were on a more traditional TV outlet, the kind one stumbled across when channel surfing, where those less dedicated to the Fire, MLS and soccer might see them and fall into their thrall."

    This is why I called bullsh*t on Nelson Rodriguez' comment that "viewership" was up in his press conference a couple of months ago.
     
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  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WGN might have TV slots available next year.
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/3...chicago-teams-leave-wgn-tv-without-any-sports
     
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  19. IU Gooner

    IU Gooner Member+

    Feb 8, 2009
    Chicago
    I'd rather see them back on NBCS than WGN or another broadcast station.

    While over the air channels may be in more homes, there's a lot of value in having your games promoted during the other team's games. Imagine Eddie Olczyk reading out "Watch the Fire take on Orlando this Saturday at 1, right here on NBC Sports Chicago" during the 1st round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs! That's your target audience, not the viewers of Black-ish reruns, as the Trib article mentions.
     
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  20. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nrod was telling the truth but using national viewers numbers vs the last local numbers which is an bullshit comparison.
     
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  21. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    That’s called a lie.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    True, that was his implication, but it was the number of devices streaming the games vs. number of cable viewers.

    Most importantly, the comment ignored the fact that ESPN+ cannot be streamed in bars.
    (although he said in his July presser that there was a "device" that the Fire provided to 30 bars to stream the games. I have never found such a device, despite reaching out to both the Fire FO last year and ESPN this year for information)
     
  23. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    you know something I don't know?
     
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  24. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    The new Cubs network might be an interesting opportunity. They need programming a lot more than NBC Sports Chicago does now that they have the full packages for the Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks. What they would do with Cubs conflicts is an open question, but then that would be an even worse problem on NBCSC.

    There are also going to be major carriage problems for CubsNet, guaranteed. And the whole Sinclair thing. It's tricky.

    One true statement though, the bigger this thing gets off the ground next year, the better the broadcast options going forward are going to be. Prove to these stations that there is real local interest, and the calculus changes from where this franchise has been.
     

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