Josh Perez in Spain

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  1. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
  2. PalmettoSpur

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    Oct 21, 2015
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  3. Eighteen Alpha

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    Aug 17, 2016
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    He is developing into the most dangerous inverted winger in our pool. That was the move he was making when he was fouled (uncalled) in his first team debut.
     
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  4. Eighteen Alpha

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    Aug 17, 2016
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  5. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    Ct Stati Uniti: “Perez importante per noi, spero di averlo al Mondiale”

    US Coach: "Perez is important for us, I hope to see him in the World Cup."


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    La CONCAF Under 20 è terminata domenica scorsa , con la vittoria degli Stati Uniti in finale contro l’Honduras. Dopo essersi aggiudicato tale manifestazione, il commissario tecnico statunitense Tab Ramos ha parlato di Joshua Perez, talento in forza alla Fiorentina e nel giro della Nazionale a stelle e a strisce. Ecco quanto riportato da Canteraviola.com: “Perez è uno di quei giocatori che militano in un club europeo e che non ci sono stati concessi per questo torneo. Speriamo che la Fiorentina ce lo conceda quantomeno per il Mondiale. E’ un giocatore con buone qualità, può essere importante per noi. Ho parlato con lui prima della manifestazione e mia ha confermato che non è stato liberato dal club “.

    The CONCACAF Under-20 tournament ended on Sunday with a US victory in the final against Honduras. After winning this event, the American coach Tab Ramos spoke about Joshua Perez, the talent who plays for Fiorentina and the National Team of the Stars and Stripes. Here as reported by Canteraviola.com: "Perez is one of those players who plays in a European club and wasn't released for this tournament. We hope that Fiorentina at least releases him for the World Cup. He is a player with good qualities and can be important for us. I spoke with him before the event and I confirmed that he was not released by the club."

    http://www.mondoprimavera.com/2017/...portante-per-noi-spero-di-averlo-al-mondiale/
     
  6. jwat15

    jwat15 Member

    Oct 7, 2010
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    Irrelevant now. But. Interesting.
     
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  7. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

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    Feb 1, 2005
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    Could be semantics- Ramos could have called to say "what if" and realized making the formal request was a waste of time. Would allow the club to truthfully say they never received a request.
     
  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
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    United States
    Starts for Primavera:
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  9. ChuckMe92

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    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
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  10. ChuckMe92

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  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
  12. Pl@ymaker

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    Feb 8, 2010
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    #11
     
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  13. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
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    AFC Ajax
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    United States
    Fiorentina is struggling now and firmly entrenched mid-table. There's little chance of even Europa League, and no chance of being relegated. This is where you start playing your academy players who are performing, like Josh, to see if they can develop on the job and be options for next year. I think if they don't do it, that would be organizational malpractice.
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's Italy. Half of their matches are "derbies" they don't want to lose, no matter what.

    Fiorentina has yet to play the Derby dell'Appennino vs. Bologna, the Derby dell'Arno vs. Empoli, the Derby Centrale vs. Lazio, and who knows what else.

    Actually, winning derbies is vital in Italian soccer. It's all due to the history between the regions, and each club has a historical affiliation with political, ethnic, linguistic, religious, and even philosophical groups.

    It's all very foreign when looked from here.
     
  15. superdave

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    Is this actually true? Do you have a link for this?
     
  16. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

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    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
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    Arsenal FC
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    That's actually really freaking cool. Is there a link that can give some more details?

    And I don't think it's so foreign here. There's a discussion in the Ethnic Diversity thread (I think) about how provincial people (including myself) can be. Those kind of divisions are here too, if only without the history/fervor behind them.
     
  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Of course there are pages and pages about Italy and their derbies. See this one for example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_derbies_in_Italy

    Same with Germany. Remember: unlike France, Spain, England or Portugal, Germany and Italy were the heart of the magnificent mess that was Europe from 1500 to 1900. They were a bunch of almost-nation-states at odds with each other a year, allies the next.

    Even now they talk about the Guelphs and Ghibellines in some soccer games. Ok, not to give a long history lesson, but those two are basically the ones who opposed the Emperor and supported the Pope, and those who opposed the Pope and supported the Emperor. And that was back in the 12th century, and all over the right to name the bishops.

    BTW, the Fiorentina-Siena is the "Guelph-Ghibelline" Derby.
     
  18. gunnerfan7

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    Oh, so this goes back to, like, Holy Roman Empire stuff? Neat. It always amazes me how convoluted and interconnected Europe is. Regular history classes don't go nearly deep enough. But I suppose that's a product of the overall, broad strokes of the curriculum.
     
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  19. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

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    One could argue that their sense of nostalgia is why they've slipped so far as a league, from arguably top, to distant fourth. They also hung on to their older players way too long, especially their domestic ones. They really have a choice.
     
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  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so for those of us who don't follow Serie A (but do follow the EPL and La Liga) what's the basic situation of Fiorentina? Is it a perennial mid-table club? Is achieving Europa League a big success for them? What was some big stars (if they've had any) in their history (recent)?

    and what is the Primavera like? Similar to say the Bundesliga 3rd or 4th divisions where their reserve squads play?
     
  21. Eighteen Alpha

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    Josh scored the first and took the corner on the second.
     
  22. Eighteen Alpha

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    Aug 17, 2016
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    Perez 6,5: Altra prova positiva dell’esterno statunitense, un po’ limitato nel primo tempo ma decisamente più positivo nella seconda frazione di gioco. Segna il 2-0 a tu per tu con il portiere ed entra in tante azioni importanti in zona offensiva.

    Perez 6.5: Another positive performance from the American winger, a little limited in the first half but decisively more positive in the second part of the match. Scored the 2 - 0 with a one on one with the keeper and made many important forays into the offensive zone.

    http://www.mondoprimavera.com/2017/...iola-sottil-intraprendente-valencic-positivo/
     
  23. Suyuntuy

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    Vancouver, Canada
    La Viola is usually in the upper-half of the table, have won the league back when chicken had teeth, but have amounted to nothing since the turn of the millennium. They've had some solid players though, and their style is pretty watchable.

    The Primavera competitions don't form part of the pyramid. They're youth affairs, Italy have had them since after the war, when it was the Campionato Cadetti (Youngsters Championship). Primavera (spring) sounds much more poetic, and since it's Italy, well, it stuck.

    It's important enough to have attracted some moderate match-fixing accusations, though.
     
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  24. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

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    Evokes images of new life and blossoming youth.

    The official name kind of kills that imagery:

    Campionato Primavera Tim – Trofeo Giacinto Facchetti.
     
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  25. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    I've always though of them as something like the Everton of Italy. Not that I follow Italy closely.
     

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