Madrid's Highest Goal Scorer - The Cristiano Ronaldo Thread

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  1. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
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    Tanzania
    What about R9? Since your list is full of attackers. He's a 3x Balon D'or.
     
  2. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The issue for being the GOAT for Ronaldo, and Messi for that matter, is each other. It's hard to claim to be the best ever if you are not the undisputed best player in your own era

    MJ undisputed best in his era. Babe Ruth. Maradona same thing. Lebron can challenge MJ because he is the undisputed best of this era.

    Being objective, no matter what fans of either player claim, neither can claim to be undisputed as the best in the world. I think their great rivalry will keep both below Maradona and Pele in many's eyes
     
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  3. RomanMadrid

    RomanMadrid Member+

    Jan 13, 2016
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    Real Madrid
    I didn't see him in his prime.
     
  4. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Madrid R9 was also better than most players on that list.
     
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  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Been following football since 1998 World Cup. Chose 11.

    Messi/Ronaldo
    Zidane
    R9
    Dinho
    Rivaldo
    Maldini
    Redondo
    Pirlo
    Xavi/Iniesta
     
  6. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Your list would have been:
    1)Ronaldo 9
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    1a. Cristiano Ronaldo
    1b. Lionel Messi
    3. Zinedine Zidane
    4. Andres Iniesta
    5. Xavi Hernandez
    6. Ronaldinho
    7. Raúl Gonzalez Blanco
    8. Arjen Robben
    9. Thierry Henry
    10. Kaka

    People often judged Ronaldo mixing his career after his injuries. His performance at WC 2002 and his first season (2002-2003) with us were great, but they were up to Ronaldo's first season with Barcelona. If you look at his first season with Barcelona, he was from a different level from anyone I have seen, Look at his first 25 goals in La Liga. Most of them were solos. He made all of them by himself.

    I never followed La Liga until Ronaldo showed up in Barcelona. I just moved back to Asia from the US. The league was not popular in Asia. That season, I tried to watch Ronaldo whenever Barcelona's games were shown on TV. I did not recall ever watching a single Real Madrid game. If Ronaldo stayed in Barcelona, I would have became a Barcelona fan eventually.

    In October, 1998, I travelled to Madrid. I visited the museum at Santiago Bernabeu(I did not want to go when Madrid had so much other things to offer). Once at the museum, I met some fans and decided to attend a game with them a few days later. So I went to watch them against Racing Santander. "I knew nothing about this club, " I told them. And there was also an interesting taxi ride. The taxi driver drove past Vicente Calderón Stadium and I asked him in English if that was the Atletico Madrid's stadium. The man who was probably in his 60's answered me in Spanish, a language I do not understand, but I somehow understood everything he said: "Si, si.... you should attend a game while in town. La lira is the best in the world. Atletico Madrid are very good, but I support Real Madrid. They have Hierro, Seedorf, Roberto Carlos, Raul, etc. They are much better." After the trip, I listed myself a Real Madrid fan, but not really until Ronaldo(my favourite player because of Barcelona) joined the club in 2003.

     
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  7. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    IMO Ronaldo R9 could have been the greatest player in history by a long long distance were it not for injuries. If you tell me I could be any player at any stage of his career and I would choose Ronaldo at age 19. He really had the world at his feet.
     
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  8. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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  9. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nobody has kept Real Madrid off the score sheet in over a year. I'm confident the goals will come. What we need is the defense that showed up against Malaga and 1st leg of the semis.
     
  10. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
    I've always maintained the same opinion. By far the best player I ever saw in my lifetime. Even the latter years RM iteration, let alone the R9 of Barcelona days or Brazil NT R9 who was just a stone cold killa.

    I remember vividly, watching RM games every week in which he would just walk around for the first 60 odd mins with teams bunkering against us and then he would suddenly come alive, as if he'd just said...... ok ok.... give me the damn ball. 1 chance. 1 goal. We get 3 points. There were so many games like that.

    Best I ever saw.
     
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  11. yoanaidarov

    yoanaidarov Member+

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    Sep 29, 2014
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    "The Frenchman is, in a technical sense and with his game intelligence, the best defender at the club, no question—maybe even a good-enough all-rounder to rival the likes of Gerard Pique..."
    I stopped reading right there, Pique LOL.
     
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  12. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    You have had to have seen him at that age to truly appreciate how special he was.
     
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  13. 9Qui

    9Qui Moderator
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    May 26, 2004
    CR7 has done infinitely more for this club than R9.
     
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  14. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Colombia
    Cr7>fat Ronaldo.

    Consistency matters
     
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  15. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
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    Jan 3, 2007
    Ummmm.... When was that ever in doubt? And who questioned this? That's not the conversation at all. o_O
     
  16. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    Ronaldo and Pele. I never saw Pele but from what I'heard and read he was on another orbit at the time.
     
  17. Crimson

    Crimson BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 11, 2009
    I still maintain that if Ronaldo didn't get injured at the business end of the 03/04 season we would of won the treble.

    Sad times.
     
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  18. Halycon

    Halycon Member+

    Aug 24, 2010
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    Indeed, luck plays a huge part in football imo. Had Modric not been injured 2 years ago..
     
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  19. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Saw you mention this on redcafe as well. For the CdR final it might be true, but for the CL tie vs Monaco and the last 5 La Liga games which we lost, its not really correct. R9 played both games vs Monaco as well as 3 of those final 5 league games.

    With R9 fit for the games he missed, we would have definitely had a better chance, but I think the end result was more due to our midfield running on fumes and not having the energy left to protect that fragile defence by the end of the campaign, after having been made to play in almost every game by Queiroz, till that point in the season. The difference between the energy levels and pressing from our midfield in the early games of that season vs those final games is in fact observably large. Of course, Raul's poor goalscoring form also exacerbated R9's absence.

    I personally feel that selling off a lot of the bench in the 03/04 transfer window ended up being our downfall, since there was no one for Queiroz to turn to when injuries/suspensions hit us during an already crowded schedule, due to us chasing a treble, near the business end of the season. Not to mention, his player utilisation till that point hadn't built any confidence in the non-starters, while simultaneously building up fatigue in the starters.
     
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  20. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    I distinctly recall you mocking this debate, saying its pointless.

    Also, dude, fat Ronaldo is not the preferred nomenclature. Ronaldo Fenomeno, please.
     
  21. Crimson

    Crimson BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 11, 2009
    he was and always will be fat Ronaldo at Madrid though lmao
     
  22. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    and titles as well, but talent wise, CR was never and will never get to the talent level Fat Ronaldo had. not even close.
     
  23. Saint Iker

    Saint Iker Ronaldo's Right Foot

    Dec 5, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'll just say that both CR7 and R9 are phenomenal for different reasons and leave it at that.
     
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  24. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia
    I did but I've picked up on bad habits
     
  25. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I could understand Barcelona fans hating him and calling him fat Ronaldo, but hes a Madridista and thats spitting on our own. Not to mention its a myth that he was fat at Madrid, he wasn't fat until the injury at Milan.

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    He had godlike physique:inlove:


    Onthat topic, I find the lack of CR7 shirtless photos in this thread disturbing (no homo).
     

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