México propone C.América con 16 selecciones

What? No, why? Yes lets water down the tournament with crap teams from Concacaf. We seriously need to change the name of the tournament because these Concacaf teams hear the word Copa AMERICA and use it too loosely.

 

lololol la copa oro tuvo mejor nivel que esta ultima copa america

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According to this there will be a joint copa america in 2016 that will be played in the states celebrating the 100th anniversary of the tournament

http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/m...scarta-justino-compean-copa-america-en-mexico

 

It's not only a Concacaf idea. Conmebol actually invited both the president and vice president of Concacaf to work a deal out. Conmebol will make a ton of money playing this Copa America in the States. I wouldn't doubt the Copa Oro makes more money than the Copa America, just imagine an all Americas tournament. As far as diluting the tournament, I dont think teams like Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama and maybe even Jamaica are any worse than say Bolivia. Last time Honduras and Costa Rica played Copa America they did pretty good.

 

I agree that money shouldn't be important, but I disagree that Concacaf sides will not bring up the quality. Ive seen Bolivia play and outside of Bolivia they are horrible. The last time Honduras and Costa Rica participated in Copa America they did really well, which shows they can more than compete. Costa Rica if Im not mistaken tied 0-0 with Uruguay in el Centenario after loosing at home by one goal. I know they lost but they showed they are a good side. As far as Copa America should only be a South American tournament, I guess it's a matter of opinion. I think a full continental tournament will bring the prestige up and make it more interesting. After all, we are all Americans and with the exception of Canada and the US we are all Latin and speak the same language, I dont see why not have one continental tournament where the best Concacaf sides qualify to the tournament.

 

Umm No according to Hollywood

 

I agree.

It's not about the money. Every federation has their own tournament specifically for their teams, why do we need to be the only ones without one? The Copa America has a long rich tradition and doing a move like this will really water it down.

But Conmebol fat cats love the $$$ so screw tradition for them.

 

Copa America, is our Conmebol tournament, as how it was named by Conmebol since the beginings of the tournament. Opinions by others mean peanuts, as it wasn`t named taking in account any geographical issue.

Btw, Mexico and others from other Conferences have been invited to participate in it many times, but by no way, it makes them a part of it and least of all, gives them any vote on issues concerning it. The only issue that concerns them, is if we invite them or not, to participate in it in the future. If they want to be a more "active" part of it, they should worry to first join Conmebol, and only after this, they could have their vote on our tournaments.

Now if they want organize another tournament with 16 teams in it, and afterwards name it as Copa America, they can do whatever they want, (personally I see no problem with it), but it would not be a continental tournament and it will have no relationship with the actual Copa America, that is played regularly in our South American continent. Now if they want to invite the 10 Conmebol nations, great !!!......., our B-C-D or Z teams could always apreciate some competition, but of course costs go on the host, otherwise forget it.....

 

Personally I'm favor of Copa America been a all americas tournament. It's just a matter of introduce a qualification round to keep a good quality of playing.

Note: We don't speak the same language. Here in Brazil we speak portuguese, other countries speak english or french. In this continent there's more than only spanish.

 

By the way, the competition to be hosted in USA in 2016 it's called Pan American Championship and it's to celebrate the 100 years anniversary of CONMEBOL. It's not the Copa America.

 

If they want to go on and do this then by all means unite both confederations for the World Cup qualifiers and let the top 9 teams qualify.

 

CFU has about 30 Members, if the 2 confederations would merge they would control the new confederation (like they kind of do Concacaf). I doubt many people would want that.

 

Why gain one more spot between both conferences, in relation to past WC ?, when for past WC, Concacaf had 3.5 spots and Conmebol 4.5. Together, we shouldn´t get allocated more than 8 direct spots. If afterwards we prove to the world that the 8 qualified sides (very likely that most of them will be from South America, imho, anyway), end up being among the best of the tournament, then we would earn ourselves that extra spot based on achievements, rather of it being due to an administrative decission. The same, if we fail to be among the best, we should loose a spot, in favour of those who prove being better than us.

 

Exactly, that´s how it is........

 

I am against this idea. Keep the 2 invites to be Mexico and another prestigious team. No other concacaf teams. Maybe catrachos or ticos, but no one else from this region.

 

We don't deserve to be in the same confederation with football GIANTS like Chile, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, etc

 

Now geography is a valid argument?

 

I believe that CONMEBOL invites teams from others confederations because the numbers of CONMEBOL's members are few compared with other confederations. So there are space for outside teams. And if they are B teams or C teams is a matter of opnion.

But in this topic there are different things being discussed. One discussion is about if a merger of CONCACAF with CONMEBOL would be a good thing or not. There are good arguments for both sides.

But this "geographic discussion" started with the argument that the Copa America don't have anything to do with geography reasons, that is actually a confederation's competition, and this is true. Copa America is the confederation's tournament; confederation that was created (like all others) with some geographic standard. And geographic patterns are nowadays used as arguments by those who think that the two confederations should be merged.

What I think on this issue is that I don't see any problem with a more integration between the two confederations. And as I said before, this competition that is suposed to happen in USA isn't Copa America but actually Pan American Championship.