Looking for a BIG flag for Jamaica game in Cary

Discussion in 'USA Men: Fans & Travel' started by wjarrettc, Mar 12, 2006.

  1. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Country:
    United States
    It appears that the North Jersey Brigade's "Baby-Ass" (20x30) flag will not be available to use at the USA v. Jamaica game in Cary. I'm looking for a substitute. Because of the size of the stadium, the 30x60 is really too big.

    Does anyone own a 20x30 USA flag that we could borrow for the event. The Triangle Soccer Fanatics will pick up the shipping if that's an issue.

    Right now, we've got a line on a 12x18 but I'd really like to get the 20x30 if possible If you've got a flag to loan, please PM me so we can work out the details.

    Thanks in advance.

    W. Jarrett Campbell
    Founder, Triangle Soccer Fanatics
    Organizer, Sam's Army event in Cary
     
  2. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    I think there are at least 2-3 20x30 flags floating around somewhere, one of which belongs to the NJB. Try PMing Bigdog (actually e-mail is probably a better way to get ahold of him) and Brushes Sands, one of those 2 guys might be able to help you.
     
  3. Bigdog

    Bigdog New Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Gone Fishin'
    Jarrett,
    I have a 10x20 I can send down, it was supposed to be donated to Rochetser Supporters last fall, but I never got address to send it to from them. If you dont mind footing the bill to send it to them after your match i can send it to you. Email me.
     
  4. Brushes Sand

    Brushes Sand Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    polychronicqatsitime
    In the interests of full disclosure, here's why Jarrett is scrambling,
    and why if anyone can help him out, please do so....

    The 20x30 was used at PaeTec/SBC/whatever park in SF
    v. Japan the weekend prior to Frisco/Guat fixture. The SF
    night air combined with the ice and sub-freezing weather
    in Frisco left Kirwan's 20x30 in bad shape. So I spent $200
    to get it cleaned. It's not "pristine", i.e. the white stripes
    are still somewhat stained, but it is now clean and dry,
    and not wet, damp, and mildewed, which is how it showed
    up from SF, and how it was even worse off after Frisco.

    That said, here we are less than 3 months from liftoff
    of the space shuttle Germany 2006. I talked it over with
    Kirwan, and it makes sense that, with upcoming transatlantic
    overhead bin travel, plus continental rail travel, it *REALLY*
    makes sense that, if someone somewhere can help out Jarrett,
    this will allow Kirwan's 20x30 to be saved for Germany in it's
    current clean, dry, and tightly-packed condition.

    (I also had the 50-state cleaned, as it too was in bad shape
    after Frisco, only it's second* use. (*Third time in a stadium;
    it's planned debut at the Cotton Bowl 30apr04 v. mex was foiled
    by our own Fed.) I am saving the 50-state for Germany, but
    since I struck out on the ticket lotto, I'll only be fedexing it over
    to someone already in-country provided we make it past Brazil,
    assuming we make 2nd in our group. If we get to the quarters,
    then I'll commit it to the cause.)

    Back to Jarrett: we need a full-court press to come up with
    something for Cary. But I'll back Kirwan on this; now that
    it's clean and ready for an overhead bin, and seeing as how
    we are not likely to have anything remotely akin to a marquee
    opponent for the send-off friendlies, the NJB 20x30 oughta
    be held in reserve.

    I will say this, I disagree that a 30x60 is too unwieldy for Cary.
    You can launch from ground level, and covering two sections
    in a small stadium would look damn kewl imho.

    -bs
     
  5. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Dude....unless you're Lamar Hunt in disguise you need to start letting us know about this stuff--I'm sure if you'd posted on here you would've been able to take up a collection to defray the costs of maintaining the flag. I know that all of the big US flags we have at matches (with the possible exception of the original NJB 20x30 flag, not sure where that originally came from) were purchased as a result of a collection being taken up, no reason the same principle shouldn't apply for keeping them in good shape!!
     
  6. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Country:
    United States
    Unfortunately, launching from "ground level" (i.e., the pitch) is not really feasible due the configuration of SAS Soccer Park's seating/walkway configuration.

    We'll work with a 30x60 if that's our option (but so far, no one has stepped up to send me a 30x60 either). My main worry is that it will involve an entire section of non-Sam's Army fans adjacent to our section that may be a little less than enthusiastic about it. I don't want to get half the flag up and have a bunch of idiots complaining they can't see the national anthem so it ends up not getting deployed properly.

    For the record, I'm with -BS- on the holding the NJB flag in reserve, I just want to find a substitute for Cary :)

    Jarrett
     
  7. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Country:
    United States
    Who has the 20x30 Gadsden (or is it the Culpepper) "Don't Tread on This" flag? while not the stars and stripes it would be cool.

    mikey
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yeah, there's definitely a second 20x30 baby out there - and I'm not talking about the original, which is at the Hall of Fame in Oneonta (it was used for the HOF Game last fall!).

    60x30 would be too much flag for SAS Stadium, in my opinion.
     
  9. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    I believe a couple of the Barra Brava guys from DC have it, although I could be mistaken. We need to get that thing to Germany.
     
  10. Galaxian

    Galaxian Member

    Oct 30, 2005
    Newport Beach, CA
    Country:
    United States
    yeah i think we should have a couple of flags for each category of US fans . That would look awesome !
    man i cant wait ...
     
  11. Brushes Sand

    Brushes Sand Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    polychronicqatsitime
    This appears to be a low-traffic thread, so the following response I hope
    will not be perceived as any sort of bragodoccio....

    [candid response]
    No, obviously i'm not Lamar. And i'm not rich. And if you knew
    how much i've spent on visuals for club and country over the last
    10 years, you wouldn't think the 2 bens in this instance was a big deal....
    [/candid response]

    The bottom line is that these items, if they are not cared for, will
    deteriorate over time, and end up costing everyone a lot more to
    replace than it costs to keep them in good shape.

    It costs way more in people time to collect reimbursement
    than the actual amount of reimbursement, so if your feeling
    thankful that I'm doing what everyone should be doing inre:
    doing their part, then buy me a six of Ace Pear if we're ever
    at a tailgate together.

    That, or I would gladly divert any reimbursement to the
    "Bribe Arena to nix Beerholder from the Germany Roster" fund.

    -bs
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    I'm down!! :D
     
  13. Thomas Flannigan

    Feb 26, 2001
    Chicago
    Jarrett, thanks for your efforts to organize fan support for the game in Cary, North Carolina. I think you will find that this can be a difficult and often thankless task. But someone should do it so our team knows that they are not alone.
    Taking up a collection to repair and or clean the Baby Ass Flag is good in theory but very time consuming in practice. The same goes for shipping costs. It is usually just easier to pay for it yourself than set in motion a process that where the best case scenario is a time-consuming hassle.
    I believe that the “Don’t Tread on Me” flag is in DC. A DC fan, screen name Bison, knew about it. I am not saying he has it but he might put you in contact with the people that do have it.
    I believe Monty bought a large US flag and I imagine he would ship it to Warren for the Jamaica game. It sounds like the World Cup could be the Last Hurrah for a battered (second) Baby Ass Flag. I imagine Ed and the rest of the North Jersey Brigade will organize a collection to replace it. Perhaps Ed will consider donating the battered flag to the US Soccer Hall of Fame which he was kind enough to do last time.
    My own feeling is we have been well served by Ed and the North Jersey Brigade getting a big flag and keeping it safely. If spite of the hassles, it is a nice tradition and helps people all over the country feel they have a small part in trying to build fan support. It certainly is preferable to having the XYZ corporation control such a spontaneous, patriotic activity. But I am not sure how long this tradition will last.
     
  14. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Country:
    United States
  15. Bill63

    Bill63 Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    And the reminder that time is short here!
     
  16. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Country:
    United States
    Just to tie this thread off, the fundraiser worked. We raised $310 dollars in 36 hours and a flag has been ordered. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
     

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