London 2012: Men's Olympic Football Tournament [R for ALL results]

I agree with your point but Mexico didn't qualify for 2000 or 2008 Olympics.

 

Yeah, those were the 2 figures in that team. We also had Reyes and Estay from the 1998 WC team, but can you name the rest of the team ?

Even I, can`t remember anyone of them.

 

hmmm

Chile finally finished ahead of Mexico in the standings during the 2011 Copa America, after nearly 20 years of Mexico participating as a guest.

Congrats!

The worst Copa America in recent memory in terms of quality, one in which Paraguay made it to the final without winning a single game and Mexico had its worst performance in the tournament when they fielded an U23 side. A team that lost all of its group stage matches against Chile, Peru and Uruguay by only one goal. A team that went on to win the Panamerican Games, CONCACAF Olympic Qualifiers, Toulon Tournament and the Olympic Gold Medal.

I'm not sure what our Chilean friend is talking about since Mexico has an overwhelmingly positive record against Chile in both official and friendly games.

pass me that sh*t you're smoking

 

Mexico has finished in the top 3 of Copa America in 5 out of 8 editions, and we've only been eliminated by Brazil and USA. Last years Copa America Mexico fielded a D team. Out of Brazil and Argentina, all the other CONMEBOL teams have been inconsistent over the past years, they praise their competitions but when they make it to the WC they perform much worse than Mexico does on a regular basis.

 

A pretty deluded U23 team at that.

 

Seems like Mexico handles itself pretty well in South America.

 

The only time they didn't leave the group was when they sent scrubs

 

Well considering you need to be top 2 in CONMEBOL to qualify for the Olympics, you didn't really address the other poster's point by listing a bunch of tournaments where Mexico usually finished 3rd or lower. Just saying...

 

fact, but we finished ahead of those top two south americans in the olympics. Just sayin'.

 

You mean the CONMEBOL U20 WC Qualifiers right?

It's rather myopic to point out the "difficulty" of qualifying when that all goes out the window once you reach the Olympic tournament.

It's no secret that CONCACAF Olympic Qualifiers are not the toughest test but that means f*ck all if you manage to beat Brazil in the final and take the Gold Medal.

 

Just wondering, what matters most to the Mexican(fans), going to the Copa America with a full team or going to the Confederations Cup with a full team?

 

Confederations. At least the Copa America gave some of the younger guys some experience...

 

Oh okay, so it seems from now on Mexico is going to be sending their youth team to the Copa, and play their full teams for the Gold Cup(so they can get a ticket for the Confederations Cup). Copa América and Copa de Oro will now be played in the same years and in the summer. Doesn't seem like a big waste of time even sending a second or 3rd team?

 

Copa America for me and no Mexico is sending their senior team now just like before. According to the FMF president, he pressured CONCACAF for it and remember it was not Mexico's fault but CONCACAF.

 

The point I was making with posting their results at Copa America was that they can play well even in South America. They have never played at home in Copa America, and in a qualification they would have that opportunity and advantage. Moreover, they wouldn't have a age-cap like at CA 2011, if they were in a qualification...

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts.....

 

U-22 minus 8 due to the suspensions in Ecuador.........Our U-23 Olympic champion side would have surely beat the Chilean NT

 

Well, same thing.

Not at all, because the teams qualifying aren't the same ones competing in the final tournament (ie the Olympics). IOW, just because Mexico won the Olympics, doesn't mean they would've qualified out of CONMEBOL or UEFA.

Nothing against Mexico - I was cheering for them in the Gold medal game - but there is a big difference between succeeding in qualifying and succeeding in the final tournament, especially when talking about the Olympics. Different format, different teams, different setting, different year, different age groups.

 

Since Mexico won gold with all their players playing in the mexican league, they would have all been in qualifying minus the 3 overage players......So yeah they would have qualified from anywhere.

yeah succeding in the final tournament is what matters and where the prestige is!

 

err... because those 3 players didn't effect the games at all?

Just because you win a cup competition in 2012, doesn't mean you would've won a league-style competition 18 months earlier against different teams in a different setting. Lets be logical about this.

 

umm exactly.

It doesn't matter how you get there, it matters how you perform when it counts.

Not really sure why you and the Chilean guy get so hung up on hypotheticals. Mexico may or may not have qualified to the Olympics through CONMEBOL or UEFA or AFC or CAF but they ultimately made it to the party and won the gold medal.

I mean, Uruguay barely got past Costa Rica in 2009 but managed to finish in the top four in South Africa, ahead of Brazil and Argentina.

Faulty, incoherent logic you've got there.

Are the South American U20 WC Qualifiers/Olympic Qualifiers an 18 month affair?

Keep moving the goalposts.