Liverpool FC vs Man City - EPL - Jan 14 [R]

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  1. oikos

    oikos Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Glastonbury, CT
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    United States
    obviously didn't help
     
  2. oikos

    oikos Member+

    Feb 3, 2010
    Glastonbury, CT
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    more Can or Gini role
     
  3. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be a total waste... considering the degree to which Naby is great with the ball he needs to have it as often as possible when it's not in the attacking third. Like Coutinho.
     
  4. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Such comparisons between Keita and the other two players aren't useful. He's so much better offensively than they are.
     
  5. newterp

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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keita is 22 - and will most-likely only get better and that includes offensive output. But in the first instance - we need him to come in and hit the ground running as an all-action midfielder.

    Positive - Guinea isn't in the WC so he will have a full summer with Klopp.
     
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  6. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Coutinho were more all-action perhaps the backline this season would have had a little more support!

    Either way, if the 4-3-3 persists it would be a waste to have Naby sit back. With his dribbling and passing, he should be tagged for that 8/10 role. No one in LFC's midfield can dribble like him.
     
  7. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    I doubt if he'll become a better reaction shot-stopper......

    Is (for example) the Man City keeper better than Mignolet?

    I guess I don't really see much difference between Mignolet and most of the other goalkeepers in the Prem or Spain (not watching the german or italian League too closely)
    other than Neuer
    De Gea
    Courtouis
    Cech
    Ter Stegen
    and the Frenchie at spurs
    and Caspar ....

    Caspar - now thwere's a thought....
     
  8. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC

    I have seen it a few times. But usually when the striker has more goal on either side to aim at.....

    I think I saw Batistuta do it in a Copa America final....
     
  9. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    In that particular case, a shot (low) was "on", so blasting him for taking it(high) shouldn't be the case, but he had just been a tad greedy when hitting the outside of the post seconds before when he did have the killer pass option really on....
     
  10. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    I'd leave well enough alone with our full backs ......Moreno and Robertson both played really well this year.
     
  11. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC

    Last guys I saw doing that were a certain SG and Michael Essien....
     
  12. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2 years ago there was a big difference in terms of Mignolet's authority when coming for crosses (I think he's improved this) and his distribution, as well as general decision-making and awareness... who could forget him stepping

    He's poor with his feet for the most part and by all accounts isn't that much of a leader, isn't that vocal. But he's a better shot-stopper than many.
     
  13. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

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    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
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    Except that he really isn't which is the problem. He's actually near the bottom of the league.
     
  14. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

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    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
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  15. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

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    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
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    United States
  16. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, he's better than Joe Hart these last 3 years? But not by much? Mignolet was asked to make a number of saves to ensure top 4 during the run in last season and he made a lot of them.

    Pointless to compare him to Oblak or Alisson or DDG... if there were any chance of them coming, I'd be all for it. I welcome a comparison with the actual rest of the league. But I also don't really find value in xG stats when comparing keepers? There's a lot involved in a defense conceding, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
     
  17. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The point is to show he's not a good shot stopper as he saves less than he should be expected to save.
     
  18. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's fine.

    It also says Karius has been the better shot stopper this year. Since it can't account for what an xG is or how they come about, and since I've seen every minute this season, I definitely disagree.
     
  19. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Liverpool FC
    A I've said before, neither are good enough for a title winning team.

    Karius is young so could potentially still improve.

    Best option is to buy a top class No.1 if available.
     
  20. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's the next most important area to improve no matter how you feel about Mignolet. So, agreed.
     
  21. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As far as netminders are concerned, I'm concerned with how they handle PKs and free kicks. Some shots are unstoppable. And is there a metric for spilling shots? Reina spoilled us.
     
  22. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why did Mignolet nosedive when coming to FC? This issue is bigger than one position.

    Which is why I'm glad they got VVD, which is why I'm happy with Robertson, and hopefully they will be deciding between upgrading 6 or 1 (or doing both) this summer. It's a big issue, it needs to be addressed in the aggregate. Fortunately they're doing that.
     
  23. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #298 Red Bird, Feb 16, 2018
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