Lionel Messi vs Cristiano Ronaldo; better UEFA Champions league career?

Can't agree more.

 

You can always trust celito to be the resident troll

 

This is a total disaster of a post
Rossi cannot be mentioned in the same paragraph as CR(forget about sentence)
Any version of CR stretching as far back as 2007 is heaps and bounds ahead of Rossi.
Heaps and bounds


Just to be clear:
Rossi did destroy Brazil.(this is a fact whether you accept it or not)
“Johnny on the spot” did what was required of him and owned that tie.
the combined efforts of “creative” players zico,Eder,falcao,Socrates Etc were no match for a tapin maestro on that day

 

Ronaldo scored 9 goals against Bayern Munich( 4 of them coming in CL SFs)
That is an involvement of 1 GPG
Any manager in any era would take that guarantee of a goal per match against a team like Bayern
In front of goal ronaldo (on his game) is a ice cold killer no two ways about it

if you haven’t watched the match vs atletico I’d advise you do
Your latest outburst about ronaldo requiring service to be relevant is completely unfounded
Most of the chances he was afforded weren’t typical striker chances
The 30 yard FK attempt ,the dribble past a defender into the box (with that speed at his age)


He was unlucky today that is it
Football is like that and not even one of the games greatest ever scorers can score in every single game he plays(even with such “outstanding service”)

Btw what happened to the in depth analysis of his goals against juventus And atletico Madrid?
You will not do it because ronaldo has scored some of the greatest goals in his whole career against both of these teams
Goals that require little to no service

 

This is a really lazy analysis celito.
I notice in loads of your tirades your use of words like useless,pointless,irrelevant etc

Is there a goal scored in the history of football that can be defined as useless
Every single goal scored against your opponent places your team one step closer to the ultimate objective (winning)
The 4-0 or 5-0 goal is less important than the 2-1 or 1-0 goal but there is an important distinction to be drawn between a goal holding less importance and having no use at all whatsoever

It is important as a fan of the game that you remain grounded in reality and have some perspective when we discuss
A child can be excused for calling goals useless not a grown ass man

Talking about perspective
The dismissive tone with which you totally discredited his penalties is absurd
These were tie winning moments not flipping 6-0 penalties against leganes or Eibar
I’ve seen many elite players choke taking pens like the one last year in the QF vs juventus

I love the watered down description of his 1 vs 1(the implication being they were easy)
One of them included him rounding Buffon and finishing from a tight angle(2013) beautiful when R9 does it.....
Another included him intercepting a poor ball and receiving the return pass and deftly finishing(cold finish)
Some close range finishes aswell in his collection
A varied collection of goals and important to note ronaldo was the goalscorer of at least 95% of goals his team scored vs juventus
So it’s expected he will soak up the acclaim

 

Whatever mate it’s just hopeless

 

Ronaldo not as prolific when getting 2 or 3 half chances in a CL knockout tie instead of 5 clear chances riding the Modric-Kroos train.

Remember, Ronaldo is not arrogant. That's just the fake news, pro-Messi media.

 

Dude you should just follow ballerina if this offends you
You claim to be Argentine. I never knew Diego Armando maradona to be a choir boy on or off the field.

Also
it’s a fuc*ing warzone in football matches between boca and river plate(with actual violence and people being seriously hurt)
I’d be more concerned about that if I were you than silly meaningless hand gestures that don’t hurt anybody except the feelings of some Barcelona cheerleaders

 

Your analogies fail to hit the target because nobody claims Maradona to be the choir boy or that Boca River derbies are like a Sunday picnic.

But Ronaldo fans do regularly claim that Messi is in reality the more arrogant one and CR7 is just misrepresented by jealous people who are insecure because of CR7’s good looks. It can’t just be because he actually is incredibly arrogant.

 

Who claims Messi is arrogant?
I’ve never hear that claim made before

Atleti fans give as good as they get.
If you heard some of the abuse he recieves from ultras at different stadiums than this “offensive” hand gesture would really pale in comparison

The context is always important unless of course you were just looking for reps from your long-standing clique of haters

 

Come on guys you cant compare playing at THIS Juventus to Real Madrid of the last 4 years. Disastrous midfield, aging defense which is consistently out of form, and a coach who has lost the plot. Without Ronaldo this would probably be the weakest Juve side of the last 5 years and would not be top of Serie A.

 

This much is true. I think winning the UCL with this Juventus team must be considered a bigger achievement than any of the UCL he won with Madrid.

It is interesting that neither Messi nor Ronaldo have arguably ever won the UCL without having one of the best midfields in the world supporting them.

While the focus has been on forwards, UCL winners might actually be more closely linked to midfield performances than forwards.

 

This is a poorly researched attempt at discrediting CRs achievements
Maybe you started following “soccer”in the last few years so I won’t be too harsh
You claim CR needs a dominant midfield to win the champions league
What dominant midfield did he have in 2007/08 when he propelled Manchester United to within 1 game of winning a treble
Paul scholes was injured for the vast majority of this season
Non of Manchester United’s midfield were nominated for PFA team of the season only ronaldo/vidic/Ferdinand

The luck against Wolfsburg(do you even know what luck means )
Where is the luck is being beaten by Wolfsburg and scoring a hattrick In then return leg to bring you team back into the game(and win)
Find a better use of the word because that can’t even be loosely defined as luck


Ronaldo is in his first season at a new club
It is true juventus are and have been dominant at a domestic level
This doesn’t mean that you can’t make a dominant team even better.
Jupp heycknes won everything with Bayern ,on paper that’s as good as it gets
Pep Guardiola came and arguably improved their domestic results in the Bundesliga and they were an unstoppable German machine with a tika taka identity and were steamrolling teams

A great player or great football mind can add to a successful team or project.
It’s funny how Barcelona cheerleaders always lose their rag and become irrational
Surely a 34 year old who has scored around 20 league goals so
Far,broken a few all time records(most consecutive away matches scored in a single Serie a season)
Also Check the amount of points he has won for juventus bringing them over the line when they have not looked nowhere near as dominant as you probably believe.
Surely this player deserves some credit
One game where results did not go his way and that’s it he’s an overrated fraud

KO matches are played over 2 legs aswell so just take a chill pill and we can evaluate his performance over both legs