Lining Raiola's Pockets - The 2017 Summer Transfer Thread

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  1. Dave46

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    And that's the tragic part. Why would he even mention those numbers, does he live in the bubble?
     
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  2. MizzouMUFC

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    Yeah definitely not a smart move. If he's going to throw a number out there use something outrageous. He's just making it easy on the potential buyers. Unless Auba has some sort of buyout for less that he's trying to avoid.
     
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  3. Dave46

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    No clauses after Gotze move to Bayern.
     
  4. Ashur

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    #529 Ashur, Mar 25, 2017
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    It's close to certain he put that out there when he did back then, because he believed they were going to land Mbappe as a replacement.
    Dortmund, as they tend to be in that dept, were way ahead of everybody else and reportedly had made some major headway with Monaco to get him this summer.
    His recent form (and the fact that he literally blew up in everyone conscious almost overnight) has changed everything and now they can't afford him anymore. Will be interesting to see what happens now with Aubameyang: best Dortmund can hope for, is that somehow there is a bidding war for him, which might be unlikely at this point, with all the strikers getting ready to move this summer. We'll see I guess, but 65mil in this market for a player like him is not bad at all.
     
  5. cr7torossi

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    He will be 28 in the summer and BvB know his physical condition better than anyone else. He is a pace merchant and could have one or 2 good years in him at best.
     
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  6. Dave46

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    Really? Come on, he is at his prime right now, does not get injured often and could be a major force for another 5-6 years in European football.
     
  7. Ashur

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    #532 Ashur, Mar 25, 2017
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    Even getting 3 or 4yrs of Aubameyang at top level or thereabouts, which sounds more realistic than 5-6 given he'll be 28 in the summer, will not be a bad return on him at all as far as I'm concerned.
    He'd be the perfect bridge for us between what we have now and potentially Rashford down the line. Just one of many points on the plus side for him coming to United.
     
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  8. SyedZada

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    Exactly specially if he moves to a more challenging league.
     
  9. Dave46

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    :)
     
  10. SyedZada

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    Hi
     
  11. Dave46

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    Hi from Mbappe, Lewa, that Torino guy, Dybala and a few other strikers from lesser leagues.
     
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  12. SyedZada

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    If you want to go into that again, neither Mbappe Dybala Belotti are 28 and stuck at a non destination team, Lewa already moved to one when he had a chance. He actually made a scene doing it, remember that.
     
  13. MizzouMUFC

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    Auba has 3 years at the top level left. Like someone here said, he relies on pace. His dropoff is going to be sudden and swift.

    I'd still take him here.
     
  14. Ashur

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    Jose, as expected, has been pretty coy about his trip to Zagreb. Just claiming he was visiting "old friends" in Predag Mijatovic (now a big time agent) and Davor Suker.
     
  15. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

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    I know Africans age well, but 5 to 6 years is a huge stretch. You have definitely seen a lot more of Auba than I, but if he clearly relies on his speed more than any other attribute.

    Also, @SyedZada is right. Wether you believe the German league is a better league or not, the physicality and the speed of play and just the overall culture of the English league is a while different ball game. Takes a little more than talent to go to England and be a success.
     
  16. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

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    Mbappe, Dybala, and anyone else that's Young has time on their side when it comes to adapting. Auba can't afford to take one season to adjust, at his age.

    Also imo
    Lewa is a 9/10
    Auba is a 7.8 or 8 /10...

    if I were rating players so I'd rather have him. On top of that, Lewa' s touch, vision and IQ is better.
     
  17. Ashur

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    #542 Ashur, Mar 25, 2017
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    To qualify Aubameyang as someone who relies solely on his pace is very inaccurate. There is no denying that he did until a couple of seasons ago and was nowhere being considered a top, top striker like he is now. He may not be on Lewandowski's level (but truthfully apart from Suarez, who really is at the moment anyway?), but he's made very significant progress in his all around game and has become a much more rounded player, let alone forward than he used to be.
    The point regarding his age and how as such he could be considered a risk in regards to a Prem move, is valid to a certain extent and is well taken. But based on what he has shown as of late, it's a chance that would be worth taking IMO. His play in the last 2 seasons has truly won me over: really did not think much of him until then...
     
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  18. Dave46

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    Last year and the year before, his link up play improved a lot, he was holding the ball well as awell. So yes, he has the speed of course, but he excelled in other fronts as well.
     
  19. Dave46

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    IQ?:)
     
  20. cr7torossi

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    He will not be a major force in European football 5-6 years down the line.

    Name me one striker who was good at 33-34 whose game in his entire 20s relied on pace.
     
  21. Dave46

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    Btw, funny story from Dortmund's past. When Lewa was still young, Perisic refused to stay in the same room with him for the preseason camp. His argument was that he does not trust "Pollaks".
     
  22. Dave46

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    He is still 27 and has good 5 years in him.ok, maybe 4. But not what you have suggested.
     
  23. cr7torossi

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    28 in the summer. We are talking from the perspective of potential buyers here.

    History and there are enough examples of it tell us that Auba will hit his decline a lot earlier than 33.
     
  24. Dave46

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    So you would not buy him for 65? Auba does not rely on speed only. 35 year old guy walks the pitch half of the time and scores for fun. Auba is that better, with speed and 7 years younger.
     
  25. Ashur

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    As mentioned previously, he'll be 28 by the time the summer rolls around and it's perfectly conceivable that he should be able to maintain solid quality until he's 32, which is pretty much the norm.
    But even if he somehow "lost" it as soon as 31 for the sake of argument, that would still give whoever has him 3 seasons of a top forward. Not too bad at all, especially for a club like means like United.
     
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