Libertadores Final: SC Inter vs. Chivas (R)

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by MetroChile, Aug 7, 2010.

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  1. el Rafaa

    el Rafaa Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Somewhere in MA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I thought they played well it's just the teams they played were better.
     
  2. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think it's good that the Mexican teams participate. Good for La Copa and good for the Mexican teams. That doesn't mean that when a player acts like an idiot we are not going to bring it up. Bofo is an idiot, what he did was idiotic. I think his actions were what set the tone for what happened at the end of the match. And Reynoso is another idiot. These guys go into South America and provoke the crowds, that is not cool and it's dangerous. If an Argentine or a Chilean acts like that in Brazil he'll be crucified. There are codes, and things that you just don't do, and if you participate you should be aware of them.

    Arellano, I'm going to give a pass to. He shouldn't have fouled hard as he did, and the red was well deserved, but players do that all the time out of frustration. I am not going to say he's an idiot, even though he did lose his cool.

    Other than that, I think Chivas was a great story, how they had their federation take their best players and they still made the semifinals, and then how they won in Santiago. But I think it was clear from both final matches that the better team won.
     
  3. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We have had this discussion thousands of times, CONMEBOL(as in its officials) don't defend the interests and well being of southamerican football, they just care about their wallets. So in the end it's worth nothing, and if anything, if even Africa has their tournament without outside, we should too, but CONMEBOL officials are short-sighted as that, the only way for them to exploit its potential is just doing that.:mad:
     
  4. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Agreed. I earlier wrote on another thread that Cabras did quite well. Undermanned and depleted due to the Mexican NT's World Cup preparation, Cabras still defeated strong teams like Velez Sarsfield and Liberdade, and after the World Cup, Cabras blasted Universidade de Chile in Santiago. Many had U de Chile as the 2010 darkhorse, and this is a side which defeated Flamengo in the group stage and in the quarterfinals, including a humiliation of Flamengo at Maracana Stadium. U de Chile also has World Cup players in its roster, so it's not as if Cabras got by a weak little team.

    And in defense of Mexicans... there were times they were abused in South America. In a fixture between Cabras and Boca Juniores in La Bombonera, the then-coach of Boca spat on a Cabras player. That was pretty ugly.

    But I do agree that Bofo was an idiot last night.
     
  5. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Bofo acted like an idiot at La Bombonera as well. But that time he was upstaged. Chino Benitez was the bigger idiot.
     
  6. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Uhhhh.... :( What an ugly way to finish up the last game of the final. :(

    But yes, the better team won.

    Chivas should be proud to have made it that far though..... but I hope they get repremanded(sp) for their actions.
     
  7. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, it does benefit both sides. You have a country that has a relatively strong league and no competition in their confederation, and you have a confederation that shares many ties with that country in terms of culture and language, and that has a great competitive club tournament.

    Inviting Mexican clubs does make sense for everybody. It brings money and it makes the tournament more attractive for sponsors, which is nice for Conmebol, and it also brings additional exposure. And the Mexican clubs get their chance to test themselves against great competition. I think it's a win-win situation.
     
  8. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    What did Bofo do then to get Benitez so upset?
     
  9. SoccerScout

    SoccerScout Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Yes very good. RENAN is an old complaint of mine. I wish he had stayed in Europe...but obviously they figured out what I already knew.

    Lauro I thought was a solid keeper...but he doesnt have the "charm" for some.

    And yes Indio is another old complaint...drinks and parties hard and is heavy...he best days are behind him.

    But when teams win its hard to make these moves,....they need to wise up!
     
  10. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA


    Bofo raised his hand at La Bombonera with 4 fingers letting the Boca fans know that Chivas won the first leg in Jalisco 4 - 0. Chivas brawl at Bocas stadium was worst than what happened last night. Even the Boca fans and one of their ball boys hit Bofo in the back then a security guard help push the fan back over the security gate. Then for no reason Chino Benitez spitted on on Bofo as the security guards were escorting Chivas players and Bofo off the pitch to the dressing rooms. Anyhow Chivas won that return leg at La Bombonera. Then supposably Benitez flew to jalisco to appologize to Bofo and Chivas and Bofo just turn his back on him lol
     
  11. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    they should.

    I remember after the America vs. Sao Caetano fiasco America wasn't allowed to play at the Azteca for a 1 year in South American tournaments.
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Good memory, Mosco. Except that Chivas didn't win the return leg at La Bombonera. It was a 0-0 draw and of course Chivas had won at Guadalajara and advanced to the semifinals.

    Bofo was baiting the Boca players and the crowd throughout the game. And yeah, it was a much worse situation than last night. The crowd was out of control for a while, and Benitez snapped and acted like a total ass. Coaches need to be above the fray. He was promptly fired, and never coached again in Argentina.

    Of course, the crowd is going to be more sensitive to an asshole who provokes them when their team is eliminated than when they win. Had Inter not won the title, Bofo's provocation last night might have also led to much worse than it did.

    Futbol crowds in South America are tough. It is really idiotic to bait them like that.
     
  13. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA


    Agree with you players like Bofo should keep in mind what should not be done on others turf to maintain the safety of their fellow players. But also Palermo was punking Ramon Morales for no reason I think thats what triggered Bofo to start acting up.
     
  14. El Cinquillo

    El Cinquillo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 5, 2010
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That pretty much sums up what I was about to say.
     
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    +1 :)
     
  16. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    Garbage post, you're going around in circles. Mexicans have no class but south Americans get a pass because it's south america.

    South American brawls happen as well, but that's ok, because it's passion after decades of build up. Lmao
     
  17. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    Say what you want about the beef at the end, and all of the drama, but Inter and their entire organization were treated with great respect the entire time they were in Guadalajara.
     
  18. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Actually...... maybe its inter? Remember when Estudiantes played them in the final 8 I think, and a brawl broke out because of one of the keepers doing something to an estudiantes player?
     
  19. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    ofcourse you don't understand!! how could you? Do you have any rivalries? You put arg vs braz, Uru vs braz, uru vs Arg, Ecu vs peru, Peru vs Chile, etc..etc.. and its bound to get really heated and shit will break out..plus you have specific Club Rivalries...

    AGAIN! WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE??????????

    First time in the history that a Brawl breaks ou in the ********ing Final of a Copa libertadores!!!
    Pathetic and TYPICAL!! Reminds me of the Brawl Mexico started against Colombia in the Final of the Copa America
     
  20. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    lol
     
  21. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    lol at your futbol..go play with Nicaragua!!!

    HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
     
  22. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    Damn that was so easy.

    I guess laughing at your replies makes you snap huh? lol

    You have one of the most pathetic excuses and no one, not even South Americans are buying into your bullshit.

    So South American brawls are ok because it's tradition and rivalry...

    Ok lol
     
  23. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Like when Aguirre the mexican coach kicked that player in the pitch during the Gold Cup? Aguirre went to coach the World Cup!! no..no.. they are like that and include their commentators!!
     
  24. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yup. You will never understand. its like trying to teach a monkey how play Piano by Frederic Chopin

    Again. WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE!!!!!!!!!! First Brawl in the history of the Copa Libertadores FINAL!!!!!!
     
  25. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    Dousche, there is never a good enough excuse. You just don't get that. So you crucify the Mexicans for getting into brawls, yet you look the other way and make excuses for South Americans getting into brawls.

    It's all hilarious because you have zero credibility. We all know how much of a Mexican hater you are.

    lol
     

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