Don’t quote me on this, but I believe there’s a “world” feed and camera set up from the host nation/FIFA. I’m sure tech assistants are still needed and audio equipment, headsets etc, but it’s not like every announcing team at the World Cup has to schlep their own cameras and monitors. It’s easy for us to bitch and to spend Fox’s money, but this is just disappointing. Especially since I think there was widespread praise of ESPN’s production quality in South Africa and Brazil. Personally, I don’t think ESPN could have possibly done any better than they did. They busted out heavy artillery with Bob Ley and Mike Tirico, combined with the British announcing duos and top notch past foreign internationals as analysts to provide insight from different prospectives.
Even worse, Fox isn't going to have Keith Costigan or Eric Wynalda as part the World Cup Broadcast team. Cosithan is possibly their best analyst. Say what you will about Wynalda, but he speaks his mind and tells it like he sees it, for better or worse.
Often times when they push back against criticism FOX says people just want British accents everywhere. Which isn't true. Their coverage is poor. It will be cringe worthy and half-assed.
Fifa does set up a world feed and I’m pretty sure they don’t allow other cameras to shoot the game at all. The camera that would need to be set up would be in the booth to shoot the talent for the open before the game. In some tournaments, they skip that, but I doubt they would for a World Cup. Some arenas, like Staples Center, have permanent monitors in the broadcast booths that the tv crews can use. I seriously doubt Russia has anything like that and Fifa won’t provide them. The monitors would definitely need to be brought in. There also would need to be an uplink satellite truck or a van line to send transmission, which is what we call the signal that you see on your tv, to the master control center. That brings up another point- all of this stuff is fairly common here. It’s not as common in every other country. Everyone I know who has worked in other countries has some horror story about a truck they were told would be fine but turned out to be incapable of even doing the simplest production. For the World Cup, there are companies sending trucks there to be available to broadcast, but that’s not cheap either. The truck would carry the camera, monitors and audio equipment and you can rent what they have. If you wanted something more, you’d have to bring it in. I think we just disagree about espn’s coverage, and that’s fine. I’m not really trying to stick up for Fox no matter what here. I’m just saying that it’s definitely possible espn would take the same short cuts Fox has in this World Cup and I prefer the Fox way of using American announcers on American games. I believe Wynalda said on twitter that he was taking a break from broadcasting so he could coach a team to win the us open cup (again).
Out of curiosity, do people think Fox will end up regretting getting the World Cup contract this year? Like, will it cost them some money? It really must kill them that the USA isn't going. And I agree, those cross-promotions with 23AndMe's genetic ancestry testing are tragic.
They won't regret it. They will get good numbers of viewing eyeballs on (Simpsons) Fox Network and Fox Sports 1. Much better ratings than whatever they show at 8 in the morning, 12noon and 2PM on either one of those channels, Plus if the USA wins the World Cup bid in 2026 then they will really be happy about this contract since the numbers for that will be epic.
wynalda has bone full anti soccer in the us though; having him on the world cup calling for the end of the sport and top league in the us wouldn't be a real positive
they will regret it if the us fails to qualify again in four years, although most who watch the sport in the states aren't fans of the american team.
they force everyone else outside of the home country to use the world feed because the matches are shown in so many countries and there are so many different broadcasts that if every country or even half wanted their own cameras...well they literally wouldn't fit it just wouldn't work at all. its also possible and probably true that if the us had qualified they would've sent more on-site commentators there are only so many spots for onsite teams at each match and its likely that teams that qualify get preference. They literally may not have the option to send commentators to certain matches and it may be by region i mean you may see most of the onsite ones are concacaf members. the cameras and monitors are the cheap part...thats not the cost I don't think you understand the cost-analysis of it all. fox paid a fee for the rights...that fee was based on what they thought they could make in advertising dollars based on viewership. with the us out they are going to get less advertising dollars and less eye balls on each match. so think about it their plan was to have the fee they paid and to have that income be more then that well now they know that their income will be a fraction of what they were hoping for....they are trying to pinch pennies to lose as little as possible. you also have to remember they are getting killed with their mls tv rights nobody is watching and bund numbers are far below what they had hoped.
I can envision many people here who like soccer like their "ancestral" team, as well as the USMNT. Like, for example, one of my friends is Portuguese from his mother's side. He likes the Portugal NT. He's also a born-and-raised American, so he also roots for the US. When we played each other in 2014, he rooted for both, just "slightly more" for the US.
Even if it’s not “most,” it’s not really a secret that a lot of the soccer fans in this country root for Mexico or Central and South American countries. I’m not sure about other areas, but in Southern California we have significant numbers from seamingly all of those countries, including Brazil. And most of them don’t root for the USMNT, unless they’re from a country like El Salvador or Nicaragua that doesn’t have a good NT.
citation? http://worldsoccertalk.com/2018/04/26/watched-soccer-games-us-tv-april-17-22-2018/ here is a link for last week. have to go to 12 to find an mls match. mexico nt matches regularly beat usmnt matches. http://worldsoccertalk.com/2018/04/26/watched-soccer-games-us-tv-april-17-22-2018/ the usmnt must win match..finished behind both mex qualifiers with mex literally not needing anything to qualify.
its not even all that close, tv ratings prove it. people literally barely watch mls, liga mx destroys it tv ratings wise in the us.
Interesting that the Portland-NYCFC game that had the whopping one American field player playing registered so low on the ratings. And by interesting, I mean I told you so!!! Kidding. Sort of.
Here's how you prove your statement: 1) find a survey that shows how many soccer fans there are in the United States. 2) find a survey that shows how many of those fans support the US. TV ratings have exactly nothing to do with your assertion.
I’m actually curious if anyone on here is less enthused by MLS since practically no team has more than 2-3 Americans that play. Tbh, there are teams I won’t even watch because they don’t have any Americans. Actually, I’m more likely to watch the USL or DA games if I can than many MLS teams.
Atlanta - 14 Americans -5 start Chicago - 15 Americans - 5 Start Colorado - 15 Americans - 5 Start Columbus - 16 Americans - 4 Start DC - 13 Americans - 7 Start, with 2 additional injured Starters Dallas - 16 Americans - 7 Start Houston - 16 Americans - 6 Start LAFC - 11 Americans - 6 Start LAG - 16 Americans - 5 Start Minnesota - 16 Americans - 4 Start Montreal - 4 Americans New England - 16 Americans - 7 Start That's just half the league. People who don't watch MLS often point to "not enough Americans are playing" as a reason they don't watch. Though when you actually break it down, most if not all of the US based teams start 5 or more Americans.
I did post a survey, tv ratings are a survey people watch what they are interested in. you have to be a flat earth, ancient aliens person lol. everything if fake...you answer everything with but that could be fake..prove it again...prove it wasn't aliens lol.
the stars aren't american though and the stars that are american's we are told we all are supposed to hate.
Then stay off Twitter and/or stop listening to the moronic hipsters who are pissed off that Soccer is now mainstream.
Irony is someone quoting Nielsen ratings to prove someone else has a problem with his facts. In 2014, Los Angeles had 1,300 Nielsen families. That is what represented about 18-20,000,000 people.
Idk how much research you have done, and I don’t want to question your figures or get into a discussion about them, and I am by no means an expert, but I have some doubts if you are telling me the Galaxy are starting 5 Americans. As far as I can tell, they only started 5 once. And I’m willing to bet if everyone was available and no one was hurt, they’d consistently start 2 or 3. Also, I’m of the opinion that every Mexican player you start should count as -1 Americans because it’s engrained in my DNA to root against Mexican internationals. So really they start maybe 1. haha
is soccer mainstream? I mean they moved espnfc...the only televised national nearly daily soccer show...to web only. when espn morning show covered the sport about ronaldo's bicycle kick...they really just made fun of the sport for five minutes. the usmnt didn't qualify for the biggest event in the sport bund/prem league ratings are down mls ratings are down wasn't on twitter where I got that from I got that from TT on espn.