Legends’ Biggest Mistakes Impacts History of their Teams

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by Dearman, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    When players scored the most important goals which largely impacts to history of their team to win the title, they have been often best remembered in those scenes. In negative way, if players made mistakes, caused goal conceding or incredible shot out of target in very near the goal, etc and finally effect to lose champion/relegate or disqualified for the next round in major international tournaments, they have been also remembered in undesirable way.

    It is not often legends made the incredible big mistakes, thereby it is interesting to list the mistake events. I’m not purpose to punish them, just wanna know which legends ever not only made incredible mistakes but also is a main cause to the team failure.

    In Example ;

    Toninho Cerezo mistook in passing back in match against Italy in the 1982 World Cup

    Gerrard lost ball control and finally conceded the goal in decisive game against Chelsea in previous premier league season.

    Please continue........
     
  2. el-torero

    el-torero Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    malaysia
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    riquelme missed the penalty vs arsenal in 2006 cl semi final

    however i considered him the best player over 2 leg vs arsenal in term of playmaking
     
  3. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    Miss in penalty is very common and it is not specialized by many creative players. Also, it is more caused by incredible save of Lehmann than mistake by Riquelme ?
     
  4. el-torero

    el-torero Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    malaysia
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    i think that was a combination of both factors

    if i'm not mistaken, lehmann did studied about riquelme penalty before that match
     
  5. stcv1974

    stcv1974 Member

    Liverpool FC
    Serbia
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Yes, Lehmann also studied how english players shoot penalties before world cup game and it payed off.
     
  6. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    #6 JamesBH11, Oct 3, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2014
    Yes ... ironically many greats did miss a PK
    Zico Wc86
    Socrates WC86 (PSO)
    Platini WC86 (PSO)
    Maradona WC90
    Baggio WC94 (PSO)]

    Joaquin WC02 (PSO)
    Gerrard WC06 (PSO)
    Lampard WC06 (PSO)
    ...
    Figo UCL03 SF (vs Juve)
     
  7. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Henrik Larsson gave the ball away in a dangerous area in his very first game for Celtic away to Hibs. Chic Charnley (now there was a character, Gazza would pale into insignificance next to Chico) took the ball on and lashed an unstoppable left footer into the net.



    45secs in. Not the best video but still...
     
  8. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    One of the gravest mistakes I can think of was not one done on the pitch but a comment made after a game. It was when Bayern had played 0-0 at Anfield Road against Liverpool in a 1980-81 European Cup semi final when Bayern's captain Paul Breitner had made some unpleasant and uncomplimentary comments about Liverpool’s style of play which was a great motivation for that Liverpool side, especially Graeme Souness was well motivated to show Breitner who was the boss on the pitch in the return leg (which ended 1-1 and saw Liverpool reach the final). After the final whistle Souness paid a visit to the Bayern locker room where he apparently said some triumphant words to the Bayern players. To me it was such a stupid comment made by Breitner that fired up an (in that season) struggling Liverpool team which could have been beat by a Bayern side which was at its best form since the early-1970s.
     
  9. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    well it's not so "common" as one stated ...
    Stats said:
    in PK at club level 84% conversion
    in PK WC level >77% conversion
     
  10. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Pity he (Souness) didn't remember that when he was manager of Blackburn Rovers and they played Celtic in the UEFA cup...

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport...utton-hand-blackburn-striking-lesson-1.133926
     
  11. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    I means it is very common if considers number of mistakes in history and also very common for such a given topic.
     
  12. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Maradona's was also in a penalty shootout. WC matches where more than one legendary player missed a pk:

    West Germany vs France 82 - Stielike and Bossis
    France vs Brazil 86 - Zico, Socrates and Platini
    Argentina vs Yugoslavia 90 - Maradona and Stojkovic
    Brazil vs Italy 94 - Baresi and Baggio
    Argentina vs England 98 - Crespo and Ince
    France vs Italy 98 - Albertini and Lizarazu
    Germany vs Argentina 06 - Ayala and Cambiasso
    Portugal vs England 06 - Lampard and Gerrard
     
    JamesBH11 repped this.
  13. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    right thanks
    I did not name Baresi Ayala becuase they were DF

    Crespo , Trezeguet (striker) also missed but they were not "experts" in PK per se for their career!
    Gyan (striker) missed 2 in WC2010 LOL

    Platini Zico Socrates Baggio Maradona ... were top legends and they were also main PK takers in any of their teams (like riquelme ) so no shame ...
     
  14. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Terry penalty vs Man UTD 2008
     
  15. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    since when Terry become an expert in PK?
     
  16. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    No need.PK is something everyplayer can.Neuer PK vs Chelsea 2012
     
  17. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    what I meant was the irony ... that some great legends and "experts" in PK did miss in big stage ..
    who cares if Donovan or Neuer could do PK? yes I even I can score passed Cassilas or Neuer in a good day LOL
     
  18. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Terry is chelsea legend.He scores many goals although he is a defender
     
  19. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    you still not get that eh?
    Is Teery an expert in PK? NO ... that's it
     

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