Las Vegas is Viable II

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by DANNO49, May 27, 2014.

  1. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    just need to count on Miami continuing to be Miami. If Beckham cant get them in, who the heck is?
     
  2. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A local with some local influence. Or a majority owner willing to spend more to jump through hoops.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would seem to put a crimp in any Las Vegas MLS plans.
     
  5. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this phase, a USL/NASL team seems far more likely for Las Vegas.
     
  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What makes you say that?

    A new stadium would be needed for MLS to be in Vegas, and now there will be one in a few years.

    Will Raiders share Las Vegas with David Beckham MLS franchise?

    Time ticking on Beckham's Miami MLS team amid deadline, Las Vegas speculation


    NFL stadium backers in Las Vegas are down to two top sites for Raiders

    "Proponents also promised it would house UNLV’s football team, which has long sought a stadium closer to campus, and hinted that an unnamed Major League Soccer franchise was also interested in using the space."
     
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  7. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well considering they need to have their bid in to the league in 12 days...

    That and of course market saturation being a big concern with 2 Big 4 teams having just taken up residence in the area.
     
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  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just for teams 25 and 26, plenty of markets that are interested in MLS will still be without a team at that point.
    And I really doubt MLS stops expanding at 28 either, there are plenty of people who argued on BS that it would stop at 20 and 24...
     
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  9. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also doesn't factor in the involvement of this Red Bulls season ticket holder who happens to be the president of the company bringing the Raiders to Vegas.
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And it could be announced as early as April 2015!
     
  11. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Sure doesn't take much to bring the haters to this thread.
     
  12. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every new market or prospective market gets railed in one way or another.

    To be fair, though, the comment you responded to isn't without merit. The "Vegas might happen" news has been popping up for years, for all levels on the soccer pyramid
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Poor baby.

    Again, "haters" is a term millennials made up. We don't hate Las Vegas or its prospective fans.

    But people open themselves up for getting their balls busted when they are fanboyishly optimistic and when their rhetoric writes checks that reality can't cash.

    Just your turn in the box, kid.
     
  14. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    I'm 36. Nobody is being fanboyish saying NASL or USL is more likely to come here. You just get your jollies by coming here to shoot everybody. Which, whatever, get your jollies.
     
  15. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point is is that while there are cases of MLS & NFL teams sharing cities in harmony, I feel Vegas is a transient community where only winning teams can be supported fervorously.

    So, for soccer, unless Beckham finally snaps out of this delusional "Miami MLS" crap, it's probably safer to aim lower if you want any soccer in Las Vegas.
     
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  16. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    I agree with this pretty much. We'll see if the Golden Knights are terrible how many people show up. I was at a UNLV basketball game the other day and it was less than half full. I wouldn't mind a USL team in Sam Boyd.

    I just decided to put kenn on my ignore list because his main thing is going from forum to forum and pretending he's an anchor on Fox News, shouting at people.
     
  17. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the argument I make whenever the question of "Could they support MLS?" comes up, especially to those who say "They should do it because it would be a great road trip!" Away fans does not a franchise make
     
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  18. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure the bids being submitted are for more than 25-26. My understanding is these bids are for the next 4 spots after Miami (assuming Miami doesn't get bumped).
     
  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'm all for more teams and more opportunities for players and all and looking back at the Vegas threads, I remember really loving to have a team in LV. Seriously though, a soccer stadium playing indoors in the summer kind of takes away from the atmosphere of the game. Also, if they play outside on the other hand, wouldn't players risk heat exhaustion, especially during the day?

    June 100° F
    July 106° F
    August 103° F
    September 95° F
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oooh, words, they hurt.

    You left out the part where I'm right, but, okay.
     
  21. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would be good practice for any USMNT players and their future trip to the 2022 World Cup.
     
  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I thought they were moving the tournament to the winter?
     
  23. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In theory yes, but it will still be in the mid 80's on average and could get into the 90's quite easily even in November.
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The 80's in November is still better than a blistering 106° F in July.
     
  25. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Being well practiced in 106 degrees would make them well prepared for playing at a chilly 80 degrees.
     

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