La Liga old rankings (Marca & Mundo Deportivo)

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  1. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #26 msioux75, Jun 10, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2017
    Some comments give me an idea, so, I'll made a list of candidates to an Euro Team of the Month in each season, considering:

    - Best Ratings by role > 2,25
    - Fame at that time.
    - As example, a rating of 2,50 is considered equal to 2,25 (that is 9/10 points in 4 matches)
    - The list only consider the league matches. I guess the EC, CWC and ICC matches, will change the lists.

    Note: At that time, La Liga was among the top-3 european leagues. Serie-A was the other clear top league.
     
  2. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1961-62 Euro Team of the Month candidates:

    September:
    Achucarro (Par) - Left Midfielder
    Seminario (Per) - Inside Left
    Di Stéfano (Spa) - Center Forward


    October:
    José Luis (Spa) - Left Midfielder
    Villaverde(Uru) - Inside Left
    Indio (Bra) - Center Forward


    November:
    Carmelo (Spa) - Goalkeeper
    Cayetano Ré (Par) - Center Forward
    Reija (Spa) - Left Back


    December:
    José Santamaría (Spa) - Center Back
    Zoco (Spa) - Right Midfielder
    Collar (Spa) - Left Winger


    January:
    Francisco Santamaría (Spa) - Center Back
    José Santamaría (Spa) - Center Back
    Zoco (Spa) - Right Midfielder
    Villaverde (Uru) - Right Midfielder
    Paredes (Spa) - Inside Left
    Evaristo (Bra) - Inside Left
    Indio (Bra) - Center Forward


    February:
    Rivilla (Spa) - Right Back
    Gracia (Spa) - Left Back
    Zoco (Spa) - Right Midfielder
    Garay (Spa) - Left Midfielder
    Adelardo (Spa) - Inside Right
    Romerito (Par) - Inside Left
    Waldo (Bra) - Center Forward


    March:
    Campanal (Spa) - Center Back
    Paquito (Spa) - Left Midfielder
    Segarra (Spa) - Left Midfielder


    Players making the Euro XI by Month:
    Sep-3, Oct-3; Nov-3; Dec-3; Jan-4; Feb-7; Mar-2
     
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  3. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1962-63 Euro Team of the Month candidates:

    September:
    Peiró (Spa) - Inside Left
    Di Stéfano (Spa) - Center Forward
    Collar (Spa) - Left Winger


    October:
    Carmelo (Spa) - Goalkeeper
    Pini (Uru) - Center Back
    Garay (Spa) Left Midfielder
    Sánchez Lage (Arg) - Center Forward


    November:
    Carmelo (Spa) - Goalkeeper
    Madinabeytía (Arg) - Goalkeeper
    Sanchís (Spa) - Left Midfielder
    Serena (Spa) - Right Winger
    José Luis (Spa) - Center Forward


    December:
    Sadurní (Spa) - Goalkeeper
    Rivilla (Spa) - Right Back
    Garay (Spa) - Center Back
    Sanchís (Spa) - Left Midfielder


    January:
    Reija (Spa) - Right Back
    Gento (Spa) - Left Winger


    February:
    Benegas (Spa) - Goalkeeper
    Garay (Spa) - Center Back
    Griffa (Arg) - Center Back
    Lucien Müller (Fra) - Right Midfielder
    Sanchís (Spa) - Left Midfielder
    Amancio (Spa) - Right Winger
    Collar (Spa) - Left Winger


    March:
    Koldo Aguirre (Spa) - Right Midfielder
    Lucien Müller (Fra) - Right Midfielder
    Mendonça (Por) - Inside Left


    April:
    Guerrica (Spa) - Goalkeeper
    Domínguez (Spa) - Left Back
    Sigi Martínez (Per) - Inside Left
    Veloso (Spa) - Center Forward


    Players making the Euro XI by Month:
    Sep-3, Oct-4; Nov-4; Dec-4; Jan-2; Feb-6; Mar-2; Apr-4
     
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  4. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    @msioux75

    Do you also have ratings for the 1963-64 season? I wonder how Puskas and Di Stefano look there for instance. This is the season where Real Madrid decided to keep the former and stop with the latter. Jimmy Hill wrote: "but the great days were over, the move [to Espanyol] never really took off." 1962-63 looks still good (despite infrequently appearing in the monthly teams), despite only playing 13 games.
     
  5. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #30 msioux75, Jun 30, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2017
    Season 1958-59 (Marca ratings)

    Nº - Player---Role----Club---Country---Games---Rating

    01) ANSOLA, Antonio -------------------- CB - Real Sociedad - Spain - 27 - 2,33
    02) MAURI; Mauricio Ugartemendia - RM --- Athletic B. --- Spain - 27 - 2,26
    03) ETURA, Manuel González ---------- CB --- Athletic B. ---- Spain - 26 - 2,19
    04) ARETA III, José Luis -------------- CF/LW -- Osasuna ----- Spain - 30 - 2,10
    05) ORUE, José María --------------------- RB ---- Athletic B. --- Spain - 29 - 2,10
    06) GÁMIZ, Emilio ----------------------- LM ------ Español ----- Spain - 23 - 2,09
    07) MAGUREGUI, José María -------- LM ---- Athletic B. --- Spain - 24 - 2,08
    08) GENSANA, Enrique ---------------- LM ---- Barcelona ---- Spain - 19 - 2,05
    09) DEL SOL, Luis ------------------------ LW ------- Betis ------- Spain - 25 - 2,04
    10) TERCERO, José Antonio ------------ IL ----- Valencia ---- Spain - 24 - 2,04

    11) BARTOLI, Juan ------------------
    CB ------ Valencia --- Spain -- 27 - 2,00
    12) PACHÍN; Enrique Pérez ------ RM ------ Osasuna --- Spain -- 23 - 2,00
    13) SEGARRA, Joan ------------- RM/LM -- Barcelona --- Spain -- 30 - 1,97
    14) CARMELO Cedrún ------------ GK ----- Athletic B. -- Spain -- 30 - 1,97
    15) RÍOS, Eusebio ------------------- CB --------- Betis ------ Spain --- 29 - 1,97
    16) KUBALA, Ladislao -------------- IR ----- Barcelona - Hun/Spa - 20 - 1,95
    17) ALARCÓN, Esteban ------------ CB ------- Oviedo ---- Spain -- 28 - 1,93
    18) MÉNDEZ, Manuel --------------- CB ------ Granada --- Spain -- 30 - 1,93
    19) QUINCOCES II, Juan Carlos -- CB ------ Valencia -- Spain -- 22 - 1,91
    20) RIVILLA, Feliciano ----------- LM/RM - Atlético Ma - Spain - 21 - 1,90

    21) ARAQUISTÁIN, José --------------------
    GK - Real Sociedad - Spain - 28 - 1,89
    22) ELIZONDO, Andoni ---------------------- LB - Real Sociedad - Spain - 18 - 1,89
    23) EIZAGUIRRE, Ignacio ------------------- GK ----- Osasuna ---- Spain - 28 - 1,86
    24) RODOLFO Gutiérrez --------------------- CB ----- Zaragoza --- Spain - 20 - 1,85
    25) CAMPANAL II; Marcelino González - CB ----- Sevilla ---- Spain - 25 - 1,84
    26) VICENTE, José ------------------------------ GK ----- Español --- Spain - 23 - 1,83
    27) CERDÁN, Enrique ------------------------- RW ---- Osasuna --- Spain - 29 - 1,83
    28) GONZÁLEZ, Manuel --------------------- CB ----- Osasuna --- Spain - 29 - 1,83
    29) TORRES, Manuel -------------------------- RB ---- Zaragoza ---- Spain - 30 - 1,83
    30) IRULEGUI, José ------------------------ RB/LB - Real Sociedad - Spain - 23 - 1,78

    31) URIBE, Ignacio ----------------- IR/IL ---- Athletic B. -- Spain -- 26 - 1,77
    32) SANTAMARÍA, José ---------- CB ------- Real Mad - Uru/Spa - 24 - 1,75
    33) VILA, Ramón -------------------- LW ------- Zaragoza -- Spain -- 28 - 1,75
    34) ALTISENT, Rogelio ------------ CB -------- S.Gijón ---- Spain - 20 - 1,75
    35) GRACIA, Sigfrido -------------- LB ------- Barcelona -- Spain -- 27 - 1,74
    36) EVARISTO de Macedo ----- IR/CF ----- Barcelona -- Brazil -- 23 - 1,74
    37) GOMES, Carlos ---------------- GK ------- Granada -- Portugal - 27 - 1,74
    38) CANITO; Nicanor Sagarduy - LB ----- Athletic B. --- Spain - 23 - 1,74
    39) GORDEJUELA, Fermín --- RB/RM - Real Sociedad - Spain - 29 - 1,72
    40) LARRABEITI, Manuel -------- LB -------- Granada ---- Spain - 25 - 1,72

    41) SANTOS, Fernando ----------
    LB ---- Betis ------ Spain - 18 - 1,72
    42) RAMALLETS, Antonio ----- GK - Barcelona -- Spain -- 28 - 1,71
    43) DE LAS HERAS, Pedro ----- GK - Zaragoza -- Spain -- 24 - 1,71
    44) PADRÓN; Ramón Allegue - GK --- Celta ---- Spain -- 21 - 1,71
    45) GARBAYO, Francisco -------- LB ---- Celta --- Spain -- 23 - 1,70
    46) BECERRIL, José --------------- RM - Granada -- Spain -- 20 - 1,70
    47) BRAGA, José Carlos ---------- LW ---- Celta --- Brazil -- 26 - 1,69
    48) TEJADA, Justo ---------------- RW - Barcelona -- Spain -- 28 - 1,68
    49) PUSKAS, Ferenc --------------- IL - Real Mad - Hungary - 24 - 1,67
    50) OLIVELLA, Ferran ----------- RB - Barcelona --- Spain -- 27 - 1,67


    Bonus
    CALLEJO, Alberto ------------------
    CB -- Atlético Ma. - Spain -- 27 - 1,67
    GOYO; Gregorio Vergel ------------ GK --- Valencia --- Spain -- 21 - 1,67
    FAURA, Agustín ---------------------- LB ---- Español ---- Spain - -18 - 1,67
    ACHÚCARRO, Ignacio ------------- LM ---- Sevilla - Paraguay - 20 - 1,65
    DECIO Recamán ------------------- RM/CF -- Español --- Brazil -- 22 - 1,64
    DI STEFANO, Alfredo --------------- CF --- Real Mad - Arg/Spa - 28 - 1,61
    KOPA: Raymond Kopaszewski - RW/IR - Real Mad - France -- 30 - 1,60
    RIAL, Héctor ----------------------------- IR --- Real Mad - Arg/Spa - 20 - 1,60
    MIGUEL González -------------------- RW - Atlético Ma -- Spain -- 27 - 1,59
    SUAREZ, Luis ---------------------------- IL --- Barcelona --- Spain -- 26 - 1,58
     
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  6. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Ideal team 1958-59 (Marca)
    --------------- Carmelo
    Orué --------- Ansola --------- Elizondo
    ------ Mauri -------- Maguregui
    --------- Kubala ---------- Tercero
    Cerdán -------- Areta III --------- Del Sol


    I guess, for many people, the results could be a bit disapointing.
     
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  7. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    La Liga 1958-59 (Stars not making the top-50)

    Low rating

    Di Stefano, Kopa, Rial, Santisteban, Marquitos, Gento - Real Madrid
    Luis Suárez, Rodri, Czibor - Barcelona
    Joel Martins - Valencia
    Gaínza - Athletic Bilbao
    Collar, Peiró, Vavá, Mendonça - Atlético Madrid
    Óscar Coll - Espanyol
    Achucarro, Graça - Sevilla
    José Parodi - Las Palmas
    Jaime Ramírez, Juan Armando Benavídez - Granada


    Less than 18 matches
    Domínguez - Real Madrid
    Villaverde, Eulogio Martínez, Vergés, Kocsis - Barcelona
    Garay - Athletic Bilbao
    Madinabeytia, Heriberto Herrera - Atlético Madrid
    JB.Agüero - Sevilla
    Amarilla, Jorge Romero - Oviedo
    Loret de Mola - Las Palmas
    Alfredo Hugo Rojas - Celta


    http://www.bdfutbol.com/t/t1958-59.html
     
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  8. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    My own ranking about best players in La Liga 1958-59:

    4 stars: none

    3 stars: 8 players
    Ansola, Mauri, Etura, Areta III, Orué, Del Sol, Segarra & Kubala

    2 stars: 36 players
    Gámiz, Maguregui, Gensana, Tercero, Bartoli, Pachín, Carmelo, Ríos, Alarcón, Méndez, Quincocés II, Rivilla, Araquistáin, Elizondo, Eizaguirre, Rodolfo, Campanal II, Vicente, Cerdán, González, Torres, Irulegui, Santamaría, Gracia, Evaristo, Carlos Gomes, Ramallets, Braga, tejada, Puskas, Olivella, Achucarro, Di Stéfano, Kopa, Rial & Luis Suárez.


    btw, any of the top-3 in the Marca ranking could had an option to be Best Player in the season.
     
  9. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1958-59 Euro Team of the Month candidates:

    September:
    C.Gomes (Por) - GK
    Méndez (Spa) - CB
    Gracia (Spa) - LB
    Rial (Arg) - IR
    Azpeitía (Spa) - IL
    Kopa (Fra) - RW
    Kuszmann (Hun) - CF
    Del Sol (Spa) - LW


    October:
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Padrón (Spa) - GK
    Olivella (Spa) - RB
    Ansola (Spa) - CB
    Campanal II (Spa) - CB
    Segarra (Spa) - RM
    Gensana (Spa) - LM
    Kubala (Spa) - IR
    Di Stéfano (Spa) - CF


    November:
    Eizaguirre (Spa) - GK
    Ansola (Spa) - CB
    Quincocés II (Spa) - CB
    Mauri (Spa) - RM
    Maguregui (Spa) - LM
    Areta II (Spa) - IL


    December:
    Carmelo (Spa) - GK
    Orué (Spa) - RB
    Ansola (Spa) - CB
    Ruiz Sosa (Spa) - RM
    Luis Suárez (Spa) - IL
    Ángel Aguirre (Spa) - IL
    Gordejuela (Spa) - RW
    Evaristo (Bra) - CF
    Areta III (Spa) - LW
    Del Sol (Spa) - LW


    January:
    Orué (Spa) - RB
    Etura (Spa) - CB
    Alarcón (Spa) - CB
    Rodolfo (Spa) - CB
    Maguregui (Spa) - LM
    Evaristo (Bra) - IR
    Merodio (Spa) - IL
    Puskas (Hun) - IL
    Arteche (Spa) - RW


    February:
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Eizaguirre (Spa) - GK
    Quincocés II (Spa) - CB
    Ansola (Spa) - CB
    Bartoli (Spa) - CB
    Segarra (Spa) - RM
    Rivilla (Spa) - RM
    Pachín (Spa) - RM
    Murillo (Spa) - IL
    Tejada (Spa) - RW
    Di Stéfano (Spa) - CF
    Del Sol (Spa) - LW


    March:
    Orué (Spa) - RB
    Callejo (Spa) - CB
    Villar (Spa) - CB
    Gracia (Spa) - LB
    Pachín (Spa) - RM
    Graça (Por) - RM
    Antoniet (Spa) - IR
    Tercero (Spa) - IL
    Puskas (Hun) - IL


    April:
    Carmelo (Spa) - GK
    Villar (Spa) - CB
    Segarra (Spa) - RM
    Gensana (Spa) - LM
    Rial (Spa) - IR
    Areta III (Spa) - CF



    Roles nominees for the monthly Euro XI:
    Sep-8, Oct-7; Nov-5; Dec-8; Jan-6; Feb-7; Mar-6; Apr-6
     
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  10. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Red Star Belgrade
    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Country:
    Thailand
    #35 Dearman, Jul 3, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2017
    @msioux75

    What is a regular position of Cayetano Re ?, I see you named him as a second striker during the mid-1960s in your best south american footballer list in XT but I'm more interested about his position in early and late 1960s. Also, all sources specified he was center-forward but when look at his seasonal score record, it is really strange tend of productivity. His record of scoring was remarkable only in the 1964/1965 season and other than that is even below average.


    71/72 CD Tarrasa - - - (III) - -
    70/71 Español Barcelona 16 3 (I) - -
    69/70 Español Barcelona 33 17 (I) - -
    68/69 Español Barcelona 28 5 (I) - -
    67/68 Español Barcelona 30 9 (I) - -
    66/67 Español Barcelona 28 6 (I) - -
    65/66 CF Barcelona 9 5 (I) - -
    64/65 CF Barcelona 30 26 (I) - -
    63/64 CF Barcelona 27 17 (I) - -
    62/63 CF Barcelona 18 8 (I) - [​IMG]
    61/62 Elche CF 23 8 (I) - -
    60/61 Elche CF 27 5 (I) - -
    59/60 Elche CF 29 12 (I)

    Reference http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/21551/Cayetano_Re.html
     
  11. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #36 msioux75, Jul 3, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2017
    Cayetano Re was formed as a player when teams used to play with a quintet line of forwards, in this context, the paraguayan mostly used to play in the central trio as a multifacetic forward.

    In the WC 1958, he lined up as an Inside Left, in a quintet formed by: Juan Bautista Aguero, Silvio José Parodi, Jorge Lino Romero, Cayetano Re and Florencio Amarilla.

    I placed him in his spanish years as follows (in a WM ordering):
    59/60 - Inside Left (to be posted soon!)
    60/61 - Inside Right ?
    61/62 - Centreforward (18 games), Inside Right (5)
    62/63 - Centreforward (7), Inside Right (5), Inside Left (4) Right Winger (2)
    63/64 - Centreforward ?
    64/65 - Centreforward ?
    65/66 - bench
    66 to 71 - Centreforward ?

    Remember that in the 60s, the usual tactic was lining up with 4 forwards (being him, one of the twin spearhead) and in the late 60s with 3 forwards.

    Resuming, he played near to box area, not as an out an out striker (just 1.63 m. !), but exploiting his flashy moves and good shooting skills, not the type of forward waiting for the final pass, neither the type of player that dictate the flow of the attacking play, more a hybrid, a player involved in the last third of the pitch, in Roy words, a kind of Goalscoring Inside Forward. So, I think he could be placed as a Second Striker in modern times.
     
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  12. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    As an advance of the 1959-60 season

    The Balón de Plata Award

    Balon de Plata 1959-60.png
     
  13. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Season 1959-60

    Nº - Player---Role----Club---Country---Games---Rating

    01) GARAY, Jesús ------------- CB - Athletic B. --- Spain --- 29 - 2,31

    02) BARTOLÍ, Juan ------------ CB -- Español ----- Spain --- 24 - 2,21
    03) YARZA, Enrique ---------- GK - Zaragoza ---- Spain --- 28 - 2,18
    04) RAMALLETS, Antonio - GK - Barcelona ---- Spain --- 27 - 2,04
    05) SEGARRA, Joan ---------- RM - Barcelona ---- Spain --- 24 - 2,04
    06) SOLÉ, Juan ----------------- CB - Valladolid - Argentina - 29 - 2,03
    07) GENTO, Francisco ------- LW -- Real Mad ---- Spain --- 27 - 2,00
    08) CARMELO Cedrún ------ GK - Athletic B. --- Spain --- 21 - 2,00
    09) GENSANA, Enrique ---- LM -- Barcelona ---- Spain --- 22 - 1,95
    10) SANTAMARÍA, José ---- CB -- Real Mad -- Uruguay - 30 - 1,93


    11) VICENTE, José ------------------------- GK --- Español --- Spain -- 30 - 1,90
    12) MAURI; Mauricio Ugartemendia - RM - Athletic B. -- Spain -- 28 - 1,89
    13) BENÍTEZ, Julio César ----------------- LB - Valladolid - Uruguay - 26 - 1,88
    14) RODRI; Fco. Rodríguez García ----- CB -- Barcelona --- Spain -- 26 - 1,85
    15) QUIRANT, Miguel --------------------- LB ----- Elche ----- Spain -- 20 - 1,85
    16) RÍOS, Eusebio --------------------------- CB ------ Betis ----- Spain -- 25 - 1,84
    17) ÉNDERIZ, Eduardo ------------------ LM - Valladolid - Uruguay - 23 - 1,83
    18) ANSOLA, Antonio --------------------- CB - R.Sociedad -- Spain -- 24 - 1,83
    19) CANITO; Nicanor Sagarduy -------- LB -- Athletic B. -- Spain -- 25 - 1,80
    20) GRACIA, Sigfrido --------------------- LB -- Barcelona --- Spain -- 28 - 1,79


    21) RUIZ SOSA, Manuel ----- RM ---- Sevilla ----- Spain --- 29 - 1,79
    22) CÉSAR Rodríguez ----- CF/CB --- Elche ------ Spain --- 27 - 1,78
    23) ELIZONDO, Andoni ----- LB - R.Sociedad --- Spain ---- 18 - 1,78
    24) GOMES, Carlos ------------ GK --- Oviedo --- Portugal -- 25 - 1,76
    25) INDIO; Aluizio da Luz -- CF ---- Español ----- Brazil --- 20 - 1,75
    26) PESUDO, José ------------- GK --- Valencia ----- Spain --- 24 - 1,75
    27) SENDRA, Francisco - RM/LM - Valencia ----- Spain --- 28 - 1,75
    28) PIRIS, Rafael -------------- GK ---- Granada ----- Spain --- 24- 1,75
    29) GALARDI, José María -- LM - R.Sociedad ---- Spain --- 20 - 1,75
    30) GRIFFA, Jorge ------------ CB --Atlético Ma - Argentina - 26 - 1,73


    31) RECAMAN, Decio ----------------------- RM -- Español ---- Brazil --- 26 - 1,73
    32) MÉNDEZ, Manuel ----------------------- CB
    -- Granada ---- Spain --- 30 - 1,73
    33) MARTÍNEZ, Eulogio ------------------- CF -- Barcelona - Paraguay - 24 - 1,71
    34) MAÑÓ, Daniel --------------------------- RW -- Valencia ---- Spain --- 28 - 1,71
    35) CAMPANAL; Marcelino González - CB ---- Sevilla ----- Spain --- 20 - 1,70
    36) PEREDA, Jesús "Chus" ------------------ IL ---- Sevilla ----- Spain --- 30 - 1,70
    37) MAGUREGUI, José María ------------- IL -- Athletic B. -- Spain --- 26 - 1,69
    38) SASTRE, José ------------------------ LM/RM -- Español --- Spain --- 26 - 1,69
    39) LALO; Eduardo Gómez ---------------- IL ----- Oviedo --- Spain --- 26 - 1,69
    40) IRULEGUI, José ---------------------- RB/LB - R.Sociedad - Spain - 22 - 1,68


    41) ALARCÓN, Esteban ------------ CB ----- Oviedo --- Spain -- 22 - 1,68
    42) CHUZO; Amtonio González - RM - Atlético Ma - Spain -- 19 - 1,68
    43) ARAQUISTÁIN, José ----------- GK - R.Sociedad -- Spain -- 29 - 1,66
    44) MESTRE, Manuel ---------------- LB ---- Valencia --- Spain -- 29 - 1,66
    45) GARCÍA, Juan -------------------- GK ------ Elche ---- Spain -- 29 - 1,66
    46) PUSKAS, Ferenc ------------------ IL --- Real Mad - Hungary - 24 - 1,63
    47) MIRLO; José Grande -------- LW/IL - Valladolid -- Spain --- 30 - 1,63
    48) REIJA, Severino ------------------ LB ---- Zaragoza ---Spain --- 29 - 1,62
    49) BOSCH, Andrés ----------------- RM ------ Betis ----- Spain --- 26 - 1,62
    50) TORRES, Manuel ---------------- RB --- Zaragoza --- Spain -- 21 - 1,62



    Bonus
    PAQUITO; Francisco García -- LM ----- Oviedo --- Spain -- 28 - 1,61
    LASA, León ------------------- RW/LW ---- Betis ----- Spain -- 28 - 1,61
    GORDEJUELA, Fermín ---- RM/RB - R.Sociedad - Spain -- 28 - 1,61
    OLIVELLA, Ferran -------------- RB ---- Barcelona -- Spain -- 20 - 1,60
    FORNERIS, Juan Carlos ------- LB ---- Granada - Argentina - 30 - 1,60
    CERDÁN, Enrique ------------- LW ---- Osasuna ---- Spain --- 25 - 1,60
    DAUDER, Amaro --------------- LB ----- Español ---- Spain --- 30 - 1,60
    LAURÍN, Mario Rodríguez --- LB ----- Oviedo ---- Spain --- 25 - 1,60
    CARRANZA, Ramón ---------- CF ---- Granada - Argentina - 27 - 1,59
    ARETA III, José Luis -------- RW/CF - Osasuna ---- Spain --- 27 - 1,59
    MARCAIDA, Félix -------------- IR ---- At.Bilbao ---- Spain --- 24 - 1,58
    DIÉGUEZ, José Carlos --------- IR ------ Sevilla -- Argentina - 30 - 1,57
    ARTECHE, José Luis ---------- RW ---- At.Bilbao ---- Spain -- 25 - 1,56
    ARAMENDI, Héctor --------- IL/IR - Valladolid - Argentina - 26 - 1,54
    RIVILLA, Feliciano -------------- RB - Atlético Ma ---- Spain --- 30 - 1,53
    RÉ, Cayetano ---------------------- IL ------- Elche ---- Paraguay - 29 - 1,52
     
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  14. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #40 msioux75, Aug 8, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2017
    Ideal team 1959-60 (Marca unnoficial)
    --------------- Yarza
    Irulegui --------- Garay --------- Benítez
    ------ Segarra -------- Gensana
    --------- Marcaida -------- Pereda
    Mañó ----------- César ------------ Gento
     
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  15. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    La Liga 1959-60 (Stars not making the top-50)

    Low rating

    Domínguez, Di Stéfano, Marquitos, Didí - Real Madrid
    Luis Suárez, Villaverde, Evaristo - Barcelona
    Achucarro, Agüero - Sevilla
    Rivilla, Peiró, Vavá, Adelardo, Collar - Atlético Madrid
    Alfredo Hugo Rojas - Betis
    Joel Martins - Valencia
    C.Ré - Elche
    Marcelino - Zaragoza
    Jaime Ramírez - Granada
    José Parodi - Las Palmas


    Less than 18 matches
    Rial, Canario - Real Madrid
    Kubala, Czibor, Kocsis - Barcelona
    Mendonça, Madinabeytía, Jones - Atlético Madrid
    Amarilla, Jorge Romero - Oviedo
    Del Sol - Betis
    Óscar Coll - Espanyol
    Lapetra - Zaragoza
    Juan Armando Benavídez - Granada
    Loret de Mola - Las Palmas
    Eizaguirre, Zoco - Osasuna


    http://www.bdfutbol.com/t/t1959-60.html
     
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  16. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    My own ranking about best players in La Liga 1959-60:

    4 stars: Garay

    3 stars: 7 players
    Bartoli, Yarza, Ramallets, Segarra, Gento, Carmelo & Santamaría

    2 stars: 27 players
    Solé, Gensana, Vicente, Mauri, Benítez, Rodri, Quirant, Ríos, Endériz, Ansola, Canito, Gracia, Ruiz Sosa, César, Elizondo, Carlos Gomes, Indio, Griffa, Decio Recaman, Eulogio Martínez, Campanal, "Chus" Pereda, Maguregui, Araquistáin, Puskas, Reija & Olivella.
     
  17. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1959-60 Euro Team of the Month candidates:

    September:
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Quirant (Spa) - LB
    Segarra (Spa) - RM
    Laguardia (Spa) - LM
    Puskas (Hun) - IL
    César (Spa) - CF
    Gento (Spa) - LW


    October:
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Bartoli (Spa) - CB
    Garay (Spa) - CB
    Reija (Spa) - LB
    Benítez (Uru) - LB
    Isasi (Spa) - RM
    Segarra (Spa) - RM
    Lalo (Spa) - IL
    Wilson (Spa) - CF
    Gento (Spa) - LW


    November:
    Vicente (Spa) - GK
    Rodri (Spa) - CB
    Laurín (Spa) - LB
    Mauri (Spa) - RM
    Paquito (Spa) - LM
    C.Ré (Par) - IL
    Gento (Spa) - LW
    J.Ramírez (Chi) - LW


    December:
    César (Spa) - CB
    Garay (Spa) - CB
    Rodri (Spa) - CB
    Canito (Spa) - LB
    Mauri (Spa) - RM
    Gento (Spa) - LW


    January:
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Torres (Spa) - RB
    Santamaría (Spa) - CB
    Garay (Spa) - CB
    Benítez (Uru) - LB
    Marañón (Spa) - RM
    Segarra (Spa) - RM
    Gensana (Spa) - LM
    L.Suárez (Spa) - IL


    February:
    Caldentey (Spa) - GK
    Méndez (Spa) - CB
    Santamaría (Uru) - CB
    Mendonça (Por) - RM
    Segarra (Spa) - LM
    Lalo (Spa) - IL


    March:
    Carmelo (Spa) - GK
    Irulegui (Spa) - RB
    Solé (Arg) - CB
    Griffa (Arg) - CB
    Elizondo (Spa) - LB
    Mauri (Spa) - RM
    Gordejuela (Spa) - RM
    Segarra (Spa) - LM
    Peiró (Spa) - IL
    Lapetra (Spa) - LW


    April:
    Carlos Gomes (Por) - GK
    Yarza (Spa) - GK
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Vicente (Spa) - RB
    Garay (Spa) - CB

    Diéguez (Arg) - IR



    Roles nominees for the monthly Euro XI:
    Sep-7, Oct-7; Nov-7; Dec-4; Jan-7; Feb-5; Mar-8; Apr-4
     
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  18. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Next season 1960-61
     
  19. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #45 msioux75, Sep 18, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2017
    Season 1960-61

    Nº - Player---Role----Club---Country---Games---Rating

    01)
    ZAMORA II, Ricardo ------------------ GK ------ Mallorca ----- Spain ---- 28 - 2,11
    02) GARCÍA VERDUGO, Francisco - CB/LM - Valladolid --- Spain ---- 28 - 2,07
    03) ENDÉRIZ, Eduardo ----------------- LM/IL - Valladolid -- Uruguay -- 29 - 2,00
    04) GRIFFA, Jorge --------------------------- CB --- Atlético Ma. - Argentina - 25 - 1,96
    05) RAMIRO Rodrigues ---------------- RM/LM - Atlético Ma. --- Brazil --- 24 - 1,92
    06) ETURA, Manuel González ------------ CB ----- Athletic B. ---- Spain --- 29 - 1,90
    07) NÚÑEZ, Héctor --------------------- IL/RW ---- Valencia --- Uruguay - 27 - 1,85
    08) DI STÉFANO, Alfredo ----------------- CF --- Real Madrid --- Spain -- 23 - 1,83
    09) SÓCRATES Belenguer ----------------- CB ------ Valencia ------ Spain - 18 - 1,83
    10) SANTAMARÍA, José ----------------- CB --- Real Madrid ---- Spain -- 28 - 1,82

    11) ARAQUISTÁIN I, José ------ GK -- Real Sociedad -- Spain ----- 27 - 1,81
    12) MARAVER, Juan ------------- CB ------ Sevilla ------- Spain ---- 21 - 1,81
    13) BENÍTEZ, Julio César ----- RB/IL --- Zaragoza --- Uruguay --- 30 - 1,80
    14) ECHARRI, Ignacio ------------ CB -- Real Sociedad --- Spain ----- 25 - 1,80
    15) PAQUITO; Francisco García - LM ------ Oviedo ------- Spain ---- 25 - 1,80
    16) RIVILLA, Feliciano ----------- RB --- Atlético Ma. --- Spain ------ 29 - 1,79
    17) GENSANA, Enrique --------- LM -- Barcelona ------- Spain ------ 19 -1,79
    18) KUSZMANN, Janos ------- IR/RM --- Betis --- Czechoslovakia - 24 - 1,79
    19) ELIZONDO, Andoni --------- LB - Real Sociedad --- Spain ----- 26 - 1,77
    20) SANTAMARÍA, Francisco -- CB -- R.Santander ----- Spain ---- 30 - 1,77

    21) MAURI; Mauricio Ugartemendía - RM -- Athletic B. - Spain - 24 - 1,75
    22) BOLAO; Ángel Gómez ------------ CB ---- Mallorca - Spain - 24 - 1,75
    23) TONI Cuervo ------------------------- RB --- Oviedo ---- Spain - 27 - 1,74
    24) RAMALLETS, Antonio ------------ GK -- Barcelona -- Spain - 26 - 1,73
    25) GUILLAMÓN, Fernando ------ LB/RB - Mallorca --- Spain - 26 - 1,73
    26) DEL SOL, Luis ------------------------ IR -Real Madrid - Spain - 29 - 1,72
    27) GARAY, Jesús ------------------------ CB -- Barcelona -- Spain - 25 - 1,72
    28) PESUDO, José ------------------------ GK --- Valencia -- Spain - 29 - 1,72
    29) RÍOS, Eusebio ------------------------ CB ----- Betis ----- Spain - 25 -1,72
    30) ALARCÓN, Esteban ---------------- CB --- Oviedo --- Spain - 25 - 1,72

    31) MAGUREGUI, José María - LM --- Athletic B. -- Spain 21 - 1,71
    32) BARTOLÍ, Juan ------------- CB ----- Español -- Spain - 28 - 1,71
    33) CARMELO Cedrún ------- GK --- Athletic B. -- Spain - 30 - 1,70
    34) IRULEGUI, José ------------ RB - Real Sociedad - Spain - 27 - 1,70
    35) GENTO, Francisco -------- LW - Real Madrid - Spain - 28 - 1,68
    36) LESMES II, Rafael ---------- LB --- Valladolid - Spain - 22 - 1,68
    37) FUERTES, Antonio ----- RW/CF ---- Elche --- Spain - 25 - 1,68
    38) DAUDER, Amaro ---------- LB ---- Español -- Spain - 19 - 1,68
    39) ARETA II, Esteban --------- LB ------- Betis --- Spain - 27 - 1,67
    40) CASADO, Pedro ----------- LB - Real Madrid - Spain - 26 - 1,65

    41) MESTRE, Manuel --------------- LB ----- Valencia - Spain - 26 - 1,65
    42) MATITO, Román ------------ RM/RB - Valladolid - Spain - 26 - 1,65
    43) CALLEJA, Isacio ----------------- LB - Atlético Ma. - Spain - 19 - 1,63
    44) AGUIRRE, Ángel ---------------- IL ------- Español - Spain - 24 - 1,63
    45) BOSCH, Andrés ----------------- LM -------- Betis ---- Spain - 29 - 1,62
    46) ALUSTIZA, Ignacio ------------- CB ----- Zaragoza - Spain - 29 - 1,62
    47) LASA, León ------------------------ RB -------- Betis ---- Spain - 28 - 1,61
    48) SASTRE, José ------------------- LM/RM --- Español - Spain - 23 - 1,61
    49) CRISPI; Francisco Guerrero - RB/RM - R.Santander - Spain - 23 - 1,61
    50) ZALDÚA, José ------------------- CF/fw -- Valladolid - Spain - 28 - 1,61


    Bonus
    PIQUER, Vicente --------- RB ----- Valencia --- Spain --- 25 - 1,60
    VISA, Juan ----------------- GK ----- Español --- Spain --- 25 - 1,60
    RUIZ SOSA, Manuel ---- RM ----- Sevilla --- Spain --- 28 - 1,57
    MARIGIL, Julio --------- LB ----- Oviedo ---- Spain --- 30 - 1,57
    MIR, Juliá --------------- RW ---- Mallorca -- Spain --- 18 - 1,56
    SENDRA, Francisco ---- RM ---- Valencia ---Spain --- 29 - 1,55
    HARO, Manuel ---- CF/RW -- Mallorca ---- Spain --- 29 - 1,55
    MIERA, Vicente -------- LB - R.Santander -- Spain --- 30 - 1,53
    AGÜERO, Juan B. ------ RW -- Sevilla ---- Paraguay - 22 - 1,50
    PUSKAS, Ferenc ---------- IL -- Real Madrid -- Spain -- 28 - 1,46
    ADELARDO Rodríguez - IR - Atlético Ma. -- Spain --- 26 - 1,46

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  20. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Ideal team 1960-61 (Marca unnoficial)
    --------------- Zamora
    Rivilla ----------- Griffa ----------- Elizondo
    ------ Ramiro -------- G.Verdugo
    --------- Kuszmann ---------- Endériz
    Núñez ----------- Di Stéfano ------------ Gento
     
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  21. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    La Liga 1960-61 (Stars not making the top-50)

    Low rating

    Marquitos, Canario, Puskas - Real Madrid
    Villaverde, Evaristo - Barcelona
    Madinabeytía, Peiró, Adelardo, Collar - Atlético Madrid
    Reija, Marcelino, Lapetra - Zaragoza
    Alfredo H.Rojas, Yanko Daucik - Betis
    Achucarro, Agüero - Sevilla
    C.Ré, Juan A.Romero - Elche


    Less than 18 matches
    Simonsson, Rial - Real Madrid
    Segarra, Kubala, Kocsis, Eulogio, L.Suárez, Czibor - Barcelona
    Vavá, Mendonça, Jones - Atlético Madrid
    Joel Martins - Valencia
    Indio, Óscar Coll - Espanyol
    Amarilla - Oviedo


    http://www.bdfutbol.com/t/t1960-61.html
     
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  22. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    My own ranking about best players in La Liga 1960-61:

    4 stars: -

    3 stars: 2 players
    Zamora & Griffa

    2 stars: 24 players
    García Verdugo, Endériz, Ramiro, Etura, H.Núñez, Di Stéfano, Sócrates, J.Santamaría, Araquistáin I, Maraver, JC.Benítez, Echarri, Paquito, Rivilla, Gensana, Kuszmann, Elizondo, F.Santamaría, Ramallets, Del Sol, Garay, Carmelo, Gento, Calleja
     
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  23. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1960-61 Euro Team of the Month candidates:

    September:
    Carmelo (Spa) - GK
    Dauder (Spa) - LB
    Fuertes (Spa) - RM
    L.Suárez (Spa) - IL
    Camps (Spa) - LW


    October:
    Araquistáin (Spa) - GK
    García Verdugo (Spa) - CB
    Echarri (Spa) - CB
    Elizondo (Spa) - LB
    Marigil (Spa) - LB


    November:
    Candi (Spa) - GK
    Ramallets (Spa) - GK
    Garay (Spa) - CB
    Griffa (Arg) - CB
    García Verdugo (Spa) - LM
    Del Sol (Spa) - IR
    H.Núñez (Uru) - IL
    Gento (Spa) - LW


    December:
    Rivilla (Spa) - RB
    J.Santamaría (Spa) - CB
    F.Santamaría (Spa) - CB
    Adelardo (Spa) - IR
    Benítez (Uru) - IL
    Miguel (Spa) - RW
    Gento (Spa) - LW


    January:
    Griffa (Arg) - CB
    Bosch (Spa) - LM
    Kubala (Spa) - IL
    Di Stéfano (Spa) - CF
    Lapetra (Spa) - LW


    February:
    Etura (Spa) - CB
    Calleja (Spa) - LB
    Zaldúa (Spa) - CF


    March:
    Zamora (Spa) - GK
    Gensana (Spa) - CB
    Del Sol (Spa) - IR


    April:
    Zamora (Spa) - GK

    Toni (Spa) - RB
    García Verdugo (Spa) - CB
    Benítez (Uru) - LB



    Roles nominees for the monthly Euro XI:
    Sep-5, Oct-3; Nov-6; Dec-6; Jan-5; Feb-3; Mar-3; Apr-4
     
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  24. msioux75

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    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Ratings for International Competition 1958-59

    Real Madrid:
    Di Stéfano - 2,29 (7)
    Santamaría- 2,13 (8)
    Rial----------- 1,83 (6)
    Ruiz---------- 1,80 (5)
    Kopa--------- 1,71 (7)
    Santisteban- 1,71 (7)
    Lesmes------ 1,71 (7)
    Gento-------- 1,63 (8)
    Marquitos--- 1,60 (5)
    Zárraga----- 1,50 (6)

    Puskas------ 1,20 (5)
    Mateos------ 1,00 (5)

    Joseíto 2,00(1), Domínguez 1,25(4), Alonso 1,25(4), Miche 1,00(3)
    3/8 matches hadn't match ratings


    Atlético Madrid:
    Chuzo ----- 2,20 (10)
    Peiró
    ------- 1,90 (10)
    Collar
    ------ 1,90 (10)
    Callejo
    ------ 1,90 (10)
    Mendiondo- 1,75 (8)
    Rivilla ------- 1,86 (7)
    Miguel ------ 1,56 (9)
    Agustín ---- 1,50 (6)
    Vavá ------- 1,40 (10)
    Pazos ----- 1,40 (10)
    Mendonça- 1,17 (6)


    Calleja 2,20(5), Verde 1,33(3), Rafa 1,00(3), Alvarito 1,00(2), Csoka 1,00(3)
    1/10 matches hadn't match ratings



    Barcelona:
    Segarra --- 2,00 (3)
    Villaverde
    - 1,33 (3)
    Gracia ----- 1,33 (3)


    L.Suárez 2,00 (2), Kubala 2,00 (2), Evaristo 2,00 (2), Ramallets 2,00 (2), Czibor 2,00 (1), Vergés 2,00 (1), Gensana 2,00 (1), Rifé 2,00 (1), Flotats 2,00 (1), Rodri 1,50 (2), Olivella 1,50 (2), Ribelles 1,50 (2), Eulogio 1,00 (1), Tejada 1,00 (2), Hermes 1,00 (1), Larraz 1,00 (1)

    2/3 matches hadn't match ratings



    SPAIN NT:
    Di Stéfano - 2,33 (3)
    L.Suárez --- 2,00 (3)
    Tejada ----- 1,67 (3)
    Gento ------ 1,33 (3)


    Kubala 2,00 (2), Santamaría 2,00 (2), Garay 2,00 (1), Olivella 2,00 (1), Quincocés 1,50 (2), Ramallets 1,00 (1), Segarra 1,00 (2), Gracia 1,00 (1), Gensana 1,00 (2), Mateos 1,00 (1), Zárraga 1,00 (1), Alonso 1,00 (2), Santisteban 0,50 (2), Lesmes 0,00 (1)

    2/3 matches hadn't match ratings
     
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