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Cameron was one of the worst players in the Costa Rica loss and his poor pass out of the back directly to a Costa Rican player lead directly to the 2nd goal. I guess that, like Fabian Johnson's terrible performance in that game, got lost in all the people blaming Michael Bradley for leaving Roma?

Doesn't mean Bruce is above reproach (I thought his approach to T&T was a big mistake; baffling really) but we can hold individual players accountable.

I do think, like Italy, who never seemed like they were going to win home match vs. Sweden, there is something deeply troubled behind-the-scenes of that US squad. And it was there before Bruce got there.

 

Don't disagree with you all. Cameron did have a poor match against Costa Rica, but that was also down to Ream and him not working well at all. Just like how when Gonzalez and Brooks played together they looked godawful. You can't pair two centerbacks who play the same way and expect them to work.

It's questionable to prefer Miazga over Cameron who starts for a premier league club, but that would have been Bruce's choice.

It's all moot now anyway. Bruce did seem to favor the players that spoke well of him. Besler was a big Bruce supporter. Besler even took a shot at Jurgen when Besler said Bruce actually prepares us for matches.

 

Just because JJ plays an all out brand of soccer doesn't mean he is right about coaches. Hell he still seems to like that screw-up Klinsmann. Klinsmann was about as good a soccer coach as Harold Hill was a real music teacher.

 

He's a what?

 

Cameron has an opinion on Arena, Jones has an opinion on Arena and you have an opinion on Klinsmann.

Sounds about right.

 

And a lot of the players had a great opinion of Arena and a bad opinion of JK. Your point?

 

If you are asking about Arena, I posted my point earlier. Again: "Arena was a disgrace. Getting only 4 points from the last 4 matches against CR, Honduras, Panama, and T&T, really?

As to what opinions players have, post them which is what was done re Cameron and Jones.

Your point?

 

Both Arena and Klinsmann contributed to the US not qualifying for the WC; Arena wouldn't have been there in the first place if Klinsmann had not lost his team and put qualifying in jeopardy. As I said, something was already deeply wrong with the team when Arena took over, which is not excusing Arena at all, but players under-performed greatly throughout this qualifying campaign. I guess folks forget our loss to Guatemala, snapping a 21-match unbeaten streak against that side in the earlier round of the Hex?

 

You are just trying to make excuses for a pathetic coaching performance by Bruce Arena and want to shift talk to a loss to Guatemala in the group stage? Really? We won the group stage by 2 points taking 4 of a possible 6 points from T&T.

We went to Honduras and barely escaped with a point, went to T&T playing their C team and could not even get a point and you want to deflect attention by talking about a loss to Guatemala in the group stage before the Hex? Really?

Arena's performance will go down in history as the worst coaching performance in modern program history but continue to make all the excuses you need.

 

My point is you can find positive and negative opinions from players concerning Arena or even JK (I'm not going to waste my time to research positive opinions on Arena...I think we all can agree they have been made). The point is: Everyone has an opinion, but opinions aren't always facts.

I haven't made any definitive statements based off of my opinion; however, you did: "Arena's performance will go down in history as the worst coaching performance in modern program history but continue to make all the excuses you need."

I have no problem critiquing Arena and how he mishandled the WC qualifiers, but there was more than one coach during these qualifiers. To complain and pin the failure solely on one coach and not the other is a complete disregard to the whole story.

 

Y'all are just banging your head against a wall. Dude's a Klinsmann truther, it's not worth it.

 

Edit: You're right; why bother.

 

I know this doesn't have anything to do with your point, but as a dual citizen and passport holder for both Italy and the US... AND a galaxy fan.. this has been a depressing year for me. And the hangover's gonna continue for that national teams through at least the WC half way through 2018. thbhbhbhbbb

 

How does that opinion get me to Russia? Let me call up CONCACAF and tell them.

question: "someone just said that Klinsmann had a worse performance than Arena. Can we please get to go to Russia"

answer: "Arena could not manage to get 13 points from a possible 24 with 18 points available against Panama, Honduras, and T&T? GTFO"

 

So Klinsmann prevented Arena from getting 13 of 24 available points?

 

Do you honestly not see the irony there?

 

Do you understand the definition of irony or the meaning of the question mark?

So Klinsmann prevented Arena from getting 13 of 24 available points?

 

You have my deep sympathies. What a year, and you're right about that depressing hangover to come.

 

Klinsmann: ppg in WC Qualifying, 2018? 0
Arena: ppg in WC Qualifying, 2018? 0.54 Hmmmmm........

Had Jurgen contributed just one point to the campaign, we qualify. Just one..... If only Klinsmann had "GTFO" two games earlier

 

You are absolutely correct, if Klinsmann had managed a single point say if "ball watching" Omar had connected on his wide open header we would not be having this conversation.

Much like last cycle we would have likely won the Hex going away.

Last cycle 19 of the last 24 points.

This cycle 12 of the last 24 points.

 

This is all moot anyway. We didn't quality.

Arena and Jurgen both deserve blame for this. So do the players. Hopefully we can learn from this and make sure it doesn't happen again. We missed out on a crucial chance to showcase some of our younger players to the world.