KSA - Asian Cup 2019

Discussion in 'Saudi Arabia' started by Fa1con, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
    77% Ball possession, but the team lacks creativity to turn the possession into scoring chances. Ball possession is useless without pace, creativity, penetration and goals. The Falcons must learn to translate domination into goal-scoring success.
     
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  2. adelo

    adelo Member

    May 9, 2007
    Mother of Pigeons
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Yeah we lost and went out early. But we were not really that bad. And i'm not sure changing Pizzi will solve the problems. At least he improved the midfield a lot.
    There is a new head for the Sports authority. He is young and people who know him and worked with him praise him. the total opposite of TS
    Anyway nothing much happening for the NT until the end of the year, and even then... Gulf Cup 24 in Qatar! lol
     
  3. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Good bye Saudi Arabia from this Asian Cup. I was expecting this to happen since it's not a complete squad when you have a). no natural number 9. and b). playing with only 1 striker instead of minimum 2.

    Saudi should find at least 2 strikers that resemble Fahad Al Muhallal, Sami, Majid, Yasser, Malek, etc... And the only way Saudis are going to find any sound and prolific striker is by changing the laws for domestic matches i.e., make a rule for all the clubs to play with at least 1 striker, 1 mid-fielder, 1 defender who must be Saudi national for full 90 minutes of the game (irrespective of match scenario). Foreign players only to be allowed to play in case the club is playing at continent and world level i.e., international matches.

    Saudi were able to build strong teams in mid 80s till mid 90s OR early 2000 because of the law to only allow clubs to have 3 foreign players playing 90 minutes of the match. Now the law changed for club greed in winning local and international trophies which caused the decline of Saudi national team dearly in capping sound Saudi players. While there are still players in the like of Islam Siraj, Mohannad Asiri, and many more but they are not given chance by their respective clubs to play full match because of the lousy law that allows foreign players to play over local Saudi players.

    If above is not changed and Saudi players are not allowed to play then there's nothing much can be seen from Saudi side in future, and they will continue to flop on Asian and World Level.
     
  4. adelo

    adelo Member

    May 9, 2007
    Mother of Pigeons
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    We should go back to the 3 foreigners + 1 Asian player inline with AFC rules. 7,8 foreign players is too much.
    There could also be more room for Saudi Born players, 2 or even 3 players per team.
    It's a shame to see them move to Qatar or UAE and represent their clubs and NT's
     
  5. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    We got 7-8 players in the first division too...I really can't understand the aim to fullfil here ..It's going to make your league stronger but not the players...

    But only one good take away here is since professional players will need to play they will work hard to get into the managers eyes & start competing with the foreign counterparts.

    But if this continues , we will soon become EPL league and NT team just a mediocore team
     
  6. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Has Pizzi resigned ?
     
  7. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    I met today Majid Abdullah in Dubai, we had a chat for 10 to 15 minutes. I conveyed the message to him that we should down grade the foreign players playing in the match and in the club. He was also of the opinion that it should be minimum 4 per club. He was also of the opinion that Saudi FA should take the decision. I also asked him which top 3 teams he thinks are likely to win this year's AFC Cup after exit of Saudi Arabia and he thought that Iran, Japan and Korea are the main contenders.
     
  8. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
    Yep

    Looks like he wanted to continue.
    fifa.com

    It's not all doom and gloom, however, the amount of short sightedness and desire for instant gratification won't benefit us in the foreseeable future. It takes years to develop a cohesive and stable strong foundation, this is one of the few obstacles that needs to be solved, hiring a new head coach left and right wont solve anything, there is no short cut.
     
  9. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    What I heard too is he has blasted players in terms of external professionalism and health issues..

    But before getting a FA over haul we need the league to get back to its basics again.
     
  10. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
    What is the way forward for the NT? Any clue who is gonna be the next coach?
     
  11. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
  12. adelo

    adelo Member

    May 9, 2007
    Mother of Pigeons
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Well after the results of the semi final games, we may need to reassess things. We lost to the two finalists, so we probably were not that bad and could have reached the semis if we were in an easier bracket.

    Interestingly, 13 of Qatar's national team players came from Aspire academy. That academy was founded in 2004. In 2014, an all-Aspire U-19 team won the U-19 Asian cup for Qatar. In 2016 Qatar was fourth in the in the U-23 championship. So it was obvious that finally their policy of building a strong NT through aspire academy was working.
    The question is why haven't we done that? it was obvious that Club youth academies were a joke as all club managements were forced to take short sighted measures to survive. So why didn't our FA invest in it. I bet running it would cost a fraction of the cost of all those 7 foreigners per club this season.
    And how much would it cost to buy second division Spanish and Belgian clubs as Aspire did?
    We would not need to recruit youth from all over the world as we have a large enough population in addition to millions of Saudi-born and/or long time residents from every race and nationality. and instead of having a satellite campus in Senegal, we could have a few in all major cities of Saudi Arabia.
    Imagine if this year we had just 2 or 3 graduates from similar academy filling positions our NT team is weak in. That would have made a huge difference.
    The conditions now are favorable to set up such a program with the top leadership's cutting to the chase and getting things done mentality.
     
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  13. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    @adelo :

    Your insights are respectful , but it won't be a happening thing here. As you stated and its proved that it has only build foriegn players and not pure Qatari born players..
    The reason ?
    It's strange here and other gulf countries too , very few population actually pursue football as a career. That's why even from aspire academy most of the graduates are foreigners.

    When FCB and Real Madrid opened there own academies here, the main issue they faced was inconsistency and unprofessional behaviour from most of the in-takes.. I personally know few of them who joined academy for couple of days by paying annual fees and never showed up after 1 week or 2..

    The final thing it should start from very root picking..Only scouting players in alleys or in grounds won't help if they are not interested in pursuing football as a career alone..
     
  14. adelo

    adelo Member

    May 9, 2007
    Mother of Pigeons
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    well, FCB and Real Madrid academies were purely commercial charging ridiculously high fees, thus targeting upper/middle class kids.. there are definitely a lot of boys who would dream of being given a chance.
    True that recruiting from Saudi Arabia only would not be as successful, so forget about the Qatar comparison and look at it this way: Is there any youth level program at all? go to any club and see what they have.
     

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