Korean Football Miscellaneous III

Discussion in 'Korea' started by Seol Korea, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. Marco91

    Marco91 Member+

    Mar 12, 2016
    At home
    Club:
    Dijon FCO
    As long as they keep on putting this shit, i am not worried a bit about becoming a footballing powerhouse, i have even doubts whater they will reach the level of asian powerhouse like S. Korea or Japan.
     
  2. batumchange2

    batumchange2 Member+

    South Korea
    May 6, 2015
    korea wasnt any less clueless in the early 2000s than china is now. korea is still clueless in a lot of areas. at least china is throwing money around with intention to get on the right path
     
  3. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    With most other things they are very patient about it...odd indeed
     
  4. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Incheon Airport (Lurking to toss eggs at KNT)
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    another angle you can look at it from is:

    How many other AFC nations export coaching staff at NT level?
     
  5. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    That's true, but they are throwing money around thinking that it will somehow magically work out in the end.

    It also doesn't help when their government gets in involved with their football program every time their NT (or youth teams) starts performing poorly.
    - Military training camp in the middle of the season (both youth and senior players)
    - Changing the foreign quota spots so their domestic players can get more playing time.
    - U23 policy
     
  6. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    China can throw all the money they have all they want, but it won't change a thing considering their mindset and footballing infrastructure is still the same. Many big foreign names of both players and managers have set foot in their country, but their football hasn't really improved for the longest I can even remember, even when Bento took the Chongqing job, the club was in utter mess well before he even got there. Money is a start but it isn't everything, you can't always buy your way out.
     
  7. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I'm bitter but at the same time I'm sort of shocked at how they're now turning to our country to look for improvements especially for domestic success.
     
  8. edlee1992

    edlee1992 Member+

    Apr 3, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Guys i just wanted to randomly post one of the greatest football experience that I and you guys experienced. It has been 6+ years and I thought it would be neat to watch this again.

     
  9. TigersOfAsia2

    TigersOfAsia2 Member

    Toronto Maple Leafs
    South Korea
    May 12, 2017
    Oh the optimism we had for the KNT after that tournament. KooKi monster bossing the midfield..
     
  10. the rainmaker

    the rainmaker Member

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    You're making me sad... :(
     
  11. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    The Germany match was also a memorable moment that we can't forget. So glad I didn't sleep on that match.

    Just re-watching the highlights and going through the old WC tweets from June never fails to make me smile. :)
     
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  12. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Obviously I don't care for China and hope they stay as a crappy footballing nation..but I've got to disagree.

    China were able to beat us recently twice. That accounts for something. It's at least some sort of an improvement. They have AFC Champions League Titles now. Granted, good foreign players in this league, but ultimately, it's still a team sport. And that kind of winning experience is only going to help the domestic players.

    And if you're pouring tons of money into something, there is still going to be a higher ceiling and there will be improvements. Do I think China is doing about this the right way? No. But do I think they'll remain in the same level? No. There will be improvements. I don't see a high ceiling though as of yet.
     
  13. 10August2012

    10August2012 Member+

    Oct 28, 2012
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Sunnanå SK Skellefteå
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    The way its looking now, not sure if China will have the money to throw at soccer in the future lol
     
  14. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    #1789 ChaDuRi671, Dec 12, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2018
    I'm certain they only beat us once recently and that was back in the 2017 WCQs. During that time frame, any mid-tier Asian team could have given us trouble, even Qatar defeated us 3-2 three months after that lost to China.

    Their NT has been struggling against the likes of India, Palenstine, and Qatar recently. I'm pretty sure that "winning experience" from the ACL isn't helping those domestic players when they don't have Brazilian NT players playing right by their side.

    Also, shouldn't we at least see some improvements in their youth NTs?
    AFC U16 tournaments: 2016 (DNQ), 2018 (DNQ)
    AFC U19 tournaments: 2016 (GS exit), 2018 (GS exit)
    AFC U23 tournaments: 2016 (GS exit), 2018 (GS exit)
    Even South East Asian countries have been able to get better results in these youth tournaments/qualify for the youth WCs with less investment.

    I mean I agree with you that there is bound to be improvements when money is being poured into their football program, but I just don't see it yet.
     
  15. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    https://www.11v11.com/teams/korea-republic/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/China PR/

    2 Losses since 2010. But they did start pouring tons of money around circa 2012.

    I know Guangzhou had 5-6 foreign players (someone correct me) but it's still a 11-men lineup. That being said, you're right. You would expect to see slightly better results in their youth teams, but you can't turn it overnight. Not that easy.
     
  16. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    This was an interview with legendary Dejan Damjanovic earlier this year in regards to K-League (and differences between CSL, K-league, and Serbian Leagues). Dejan absolutely nailed it with what's wrong with K-League imo

     
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  17. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Incheon Airport (Lurking to toss eggs at KNT)
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    repost i think :D
     
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  18. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Looks like Marvin Park made his decision (for now).
     
  19. 10August2012

    10August2012 Member+

    Oct 28, 2012
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Sunnanå SK Skellefteå
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    OI PLAY FOR KOREA BE THE FOOTBALLING HAN HYUN MIN
     
  20. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Kinda hope that dutch guy plays for us because he's RB...
    Currently playing in Dutch second division with Jong Ajax.
     
  21. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    who is this?

    Edit: nevermind. It's Jasper Ter Heide.
     
  22. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Despite being half Korean, if he was born and raised in Spain, Spain NT makes more sense for him. Of course the big question is if he will ever be good enough to make their senior squad.
     
  23. edlee1992

    edlee1992 Member+

    Apr 3, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    #1798 edlee1992, Jan 15, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2019
    Then he will realize how racist the Spanish are towards blacks and asians and decides to change allegiance due to disgust.
     
  24. killaorca

    killaorca Member+

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Not like Koreans aren't racist to black and mixed race people...
     
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  25. edlee1992

    edlee1992 Member+

    Apr 3, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I didnt say we aren't. But we are not as blatant.
     

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