Parks and recreation in Lisbon: Keaton at NYCFC (on loan from Benfica)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
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    Yeah he has to not lose the momentum he has built up. Right now he is looking good in Portugal, if he plays sparingly or not at all for the 2nd half of the season, no one will remember him in the summer.
     
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  2. CDPontaDelgada

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    I think it's a good move considering his age and his rise has been pretty impressive
     
  3. TheFalseNine

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    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    What's the move? Do we even know where he's going to land?
     
  4. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
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    AFC Ajax
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    United States
    He's (or she's) referring to his choice to go to Portugal in the first place. It remains to be seen. Depends on how this plays out or how they play their cards.

    I think his agent is doing a good job of shaping perception publicly that his inactivity is not due to failure on Keaton's part by any means. Now hopefully more clubs join the bidding, and ones even bigger than Portimonense because the player himself rejected the deal there. Bar getting a sizable offer though, Varzim could just end up burning him and his agent in the end for not being submissive. That would be a shame. If they held him until after the deadline, I'd keep playing for Varzim whenever asked until the summer window opens up, and nix any vindictive deals after the transfer window they may ask him to accept. Learn from Bjorn's situation.
     
  5. TheFalseNine

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    Ah, gotcha, thanks for clearing that up, Duke. I really appreciate your posts, BTW. Very informative.
     
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  6. bballshawn

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  7. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

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    No. :(
     
  8. bballshawn

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    Well it was fun while it lasted
     
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  9. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

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    this is the type of ish that makes me roll my eyes when people automatically seem to think every player who isnt playing isnt good enough....often more politics involved in playing time than most think.
     
  10. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    Stoke City FC
    The news is he appears to be stuck at Varzim and, for the time being, is not making game day rosters. All I can say for sure is that Benfica made an offer and Varzim did not accept it. It is hard to say who is most at fault, the club or the manager. It seems, from a distance that Keaton is an innocent victim of a Portuguese pissing match. Here's to hoping that Keaton gets back on the squad and maybe gets another offer in the summer.
     
  11. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

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    Now that the window closed they are going to sell him to some mobster-owned club in the Eastern Bloc, and if he doesn't sign off he will reside on the bench of a Portugese 2nd division club the duration of his contract, thus appearing a failure to others and stunting his development. In Portuguese football, this is what you'll get, when you mess with us.....

     
  12. Eighteen Alpha

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  13. PalmettoSpur

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  14. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
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    Sad news. I think he should just play out his contract and chuck it to experience. DO NOT GO TO THE EASTERN BLOCK>
     
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  15. TheFalseNine

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    Bump. Any news on Keaton? @Eighteen Alpha? Guys over at Nats Abroad are saying he's with Portominense (sp?).
     
  16. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

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    Still at Varzim and still being punished with no roster call-ups. It's disgraceful.

    Does Nats Abroad have a link?
     
  17. TheFalseNine

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  18. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    I understand the confusion. I am confused as well. Transfermarkt, Sofascore, my own Forza app and other databases have him with Portimonense. Zerozero.pt, however, which is an impeccable source of data for players in the Portuguese leagues (as well as other leagues) say Varzim. Keaton's twitter account still says Varzim. I hope I am wrong and that Keaton does see the field - or at least the 18 - for Portão tomorrow but unless I am missing something huge, I fear he is still stuck at Varzim until the summer.

    I threw the question out to some good sources and hopefully one will come back with a definitive answer. Unfortunately, the hopes and dreams of US fans are not always at the top of the priority list for fans and journos of the European teams.

    @hokeydokey or @bshredder are probably better informed than I am, in any case.
     
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  19. TheFalseNine

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  20. Eighteen Alpha

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    Aug 17, 2016
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    Great find. Nice article. Kaci seems like a sweetheart. She just signed with Dallas Baptist Univesity on a full ride college scholarship. Easy to see it is a very close knit and athletic family.
     
  21. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    Yeah. Confirmed. KP is still at Varzim and still not playing. Take it to the bank.
     
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  22. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    #222 Eighteen Alpha, Feb 17, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2017
    There may not be many left who care but I thought I would provide a brief update.

    Keaton last played on the 21st of December. He last made the bench on the fourth of January (Pelaez last played on 18 December).

    I have since confirmed, beyond doubt, that it is all on the Varzim president.

    For those just tuning in, I will repeat that the Varzim President had made a deal (without consulting Keaton or his manager) to sell Keaton and Rui Costa to Portimonense in a joint deal. Keaton's manager refused the deal because he wasn't consulted and the kid was getting offers from clubs like Benfica (rumors of Ligue 1 interest as well). Armando Pelaez, who plays for Varzim B and shares Keaton's manager, is getting punished as well.

    I would add one edit for those catching up. The Benfica deal was reported as done (and at 3 x the transfer fee as the Portão deal) and Keaton was being discussed as the new transfer in Benfica forums as recently as 10 days ago. Additionally, sites like transfermarkt for a while had him variously at Benfica and Portimonense. So a lot of confusion for about a month. I note this because not only was the President's action underhanded, it was also opaque.
     
  23. PalmettoSpur

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    Oct 21, 2015
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    I have absolutely no reason to doubt you, but this makes no sense.

    One of your best players wants to stay and play for your team, while simultaneously driving up his value, but you choose to completely ostracize him, hurt your team, and drive down his value?

    wat.
     
  24. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
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    Stoke City FC
    Take a gander at the Varzim Facebook timeline, and you will find that the fans are in unanimous agreement with you.
     
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  25. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    How long is his contract?
     

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