Julian Green (Bayern Munich): In-N-Out: Julian Green on loan at Hamburger SV

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  1. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Orrrr, maybe the scenario being hinted at was...with Bayern II assured of promotion and Bayern having sewn up the Bundesliga title, Pep uses younger players to manage the workload of his regular starters...it's not really that hard of an interpretation if you're not just looking to contradict people
     
  2. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So has Zelalem.
     
  3. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    There is no way that Bayern II can be assured of promotion, since, even if they win their division, they still have to go through a play-off.
     
  4. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I guess for most people here Bayern II and the league they're playing is uncharted territory.
     
  5. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Well, tbf, how many even ardent football fans know about how the lower divisions are structured in other countries? Mostly, the blame falls on Klinsmann, for calling up a fourth division player and starting a ridiculous hype around him.
     
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  6. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has he?
     
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FA Cup and CL, but not league matches.
     
  8. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hm. I'm thinking if we made that distinction, but I can't remember it now, then it's probably too fine a distinction to go with. @dark knight and @Friedel'sAccent what's the ruling on GZ?
     
  9. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought it was league only?
     
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  10. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll never forgive him for taking that kid to the WC and leaving home much better players. Inexcusable.
     
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  11. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Green gets closer and closer to being the next Dale Jennings by the day.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Kid's living the sweet life getting a pretty penny for very little actual playing, in one of the most prestigious clubs in the world, which makes him a chick magnet. He's in a good position.

    [​IMG]
    JG celebrating 100,000 Instagram followers. Social media star status confirmed!
     
  13. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone take his phone and destroy it. I think Green means well, in terms of his career goals, but he's wasting time in the 4th division.
     
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  14. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    This dude ain't going anywhere any time soon.. The hype has gotten to his head I know he scored a WC goal but if he wouldn't have been on the WC team he'd most likely be more humble and have a better head on his shoulders
     
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  15. kba4life

    kba4life Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Claremont, California
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Twitter is the armpit of the Internet, does that make Instagram the inflamed rectum? I know I sound like a curmudgeon, but live your own life people. Stop telling everyone else what you're literally doing, all the time. And this is coming from a millennial.

    Get off my lawn!
     
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  16. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    thats my theory, chicks for days by playing for bayern munich
     
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  17. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree; that's a very fine distinction, indeed.
     
  18. Dervos

    Dervos Member

    Mar 13, 2002
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    I for one think it's a shame that Julian Green has been selected for the full Yanks Abroad forum when other, more worthy players have been left out.

    :whistling:
     
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  19. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
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  20. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    So he likes social media, that's a crime? or makes him less focused or not humble? To me he comes across as a nice kid that's working hard to be a good player.
     
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  22. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Not really.

    The reserve teams in the RL system is for player - young player - development. Getting promoted to BL3 is a lot like EL qualification for EPL teams; the prestige is gratifying, but you have to add experience and bodies to make the squad competitive in BL3 competition, an expense and a pain that brings very little gain hile denying 2-3 more starting places to youngsters.

    If anything, the jump in standard from RL to BL3 is so great that many player development benefits from league play are lost.

    In the RLs scrawny kids with great technique and high soccer IQs learn how to beat beefy hard men with with PhDs in football's darker arts who are playing for something meaningful (like a contract extension). In BL3, the hard men have decent-to-good technique, higher IQs and are much faster & fitter than RL. The young kids get blown away in a lot of games.

    Basically, the clubs mostly don't care about II team promotion and when they do care they'd secretly rather it didn't happen.
     
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  23. Football Master

    May 13, 2010
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    ^^

    Also need to mention that BL clubs reserves who play in the 3.Liga always struggle and fight relegation there and some eventually got relegated after 1 or 2 season. Bayern II played in the 3.Liga for 2010/2011 season and got relegated being the last in the table (7 wins in 38 games). Dortmund spent a couple of season there and finally got relegated last season. If you go and check the squads for those teams in 3.Liga you would only find one or two players managed to made it for the first team full-time.

    That's why some clubs decided to abolish their U-23 teams, as in Bayer Leverkusen case. They are one of the best clubs in Germany for developing young players, but still decided to get rid of the U-23 one or two yrs ago. If you are good for the U-19 you will get promoted to the first team or go on loan to a 2.BL club.
     
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  24. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Very true. I'd forgotten about Leverkusen completely.:(

    Spending an entire season struggling against relegation only to finish last - being hammered a couple of times a season - doesn't do anything for a 19 year-old's psychology. Better for the team to stay in RL and players to go on loan.
     
  25. spatz

    spatz Member

    Feb 3, 2013
    The Bayern management has publicly stated that they want their reserves to play in the 3. Liga. It is true that some teams (mainly avaricious Frankfurt) fear an additional financial burden should their reserves get promoted, while others follow the Leverkusen model that has been explained byFootball Master.

    Most clubs however want their reserves to play as high up as they possibly can, and Bayern are very much included in that group. For most fans of German football that are not Bayern fans it is actually quite amusing to see Bayern II fail, year after year, to archieve their eagerly desired promotion.
     
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