We defeated Paraguay there without james.... We defeat Peru withour James.......... We have gotten results without him....... is possible
Not saying it’s not but without him we would need better CMs that can pass the ball then Abel-Sanchez. Also Izquerido seems pretty creative if we go back to our previous formation and don’t have James. I just don’t see it likely to win our last 16,8,4,2 games without James or Falcao. Their big game experience and hunger is what I’ll lead us far in the cup.
And Quintero earns his first silverware despite not making an appearance. Sucks because I was hoping that he got some exposure to this type of environment for the experience.
Lo triste es que Wilmar no haya ganadoi ayer la copa...su partido fue muy bueno en el mediocampo, quitando balones y pasandola. Pero esta secciín del foro se deberia llamar "juan fernando quintero "...............para unos parece que solo importa ese jugador .......y los otros jugadores si deberian hacer como miles de meritos para ser convocados
de lo mejorcito ayer Barrios. Solito se come la cancha. En el segundo gol, Barrios haze el ajuste y cubre a Fabra después que Martinez casi lo quiebra con su dribbling. Había 3 centrales marcando a Scocco y ese fue el que hizo el gol. Yo creo que se le esta poniendo dura a Pekerman pero creo que Pekerman va a escoger la experiencia de Sanchez para esa posición. Barrios a madurado muchísimo en la entrega de balón este ultimo ano. Siempre me parecía que tenia un afán desesperado pero le estoy viendo que a ganado mucha vision en el juego ofensivo.
Haha that’s how I feel when ever anyone brings up Pibe in a James thread or compares the two. Or Asprilla and Falcao The best is I saw a poll on a Colombian site asking who has a better left Foot. James or fking Quintero Star and starter of Bayern Munich or bench player of the 19th best team in Argentina
Son casos muy diferentes: En este partido participaban 6 colombianos.....3 de ellos sin duda mas productivos para el futbol y para la selección que quintero. Para que solo le hagan difusión a Quintero. Valderama, James, Falcao, Asprilla, Cordoba, Cuadrado se ganaron el derecho a aparecer en cualquier post y thread. por su lado
Pekerman interview : ¿Qué espera de Juan Fernando Quintero?" Siempre supo que las puertas estaban abiertas y que cuando él tuviera más continuidad sería llamado. Su llegada a River le hizo bien y aunque llegó con presión se adaptó rápidamente y mostrar sus condiciones. Mejoró su estado físico, su ritmo, y aunque aún no juega los minutos que esperamos lo va a hacer. De él espero su inteligencia, sus buenos pases y su experiencia, ahora esperamos que lo demuestre cuando juegue en Selección."- http://www.futbolred.com/seleccion-...olombia-cardona-y-cuadrado-y-el-mundial-82596 My sentiments exactly.
He said he is less fat then 6 months ago still doesn’t play.... but yup calling him anyway. 19th place team in Argentina > 4th in colombia or top 8 that dim was with Quintero (Maruggo to me was the real star of that team)
He trusts him as a veteran option with his creativity and vision and beautiful passing. He does not care what place River is in (even though I think they are probably focused on the Libertadores anyway). It does not matter..
Veteran? He is 25 and hasn’t played a full season of games combined in 6 years years. Quintero is Juan Pablo pino if James had comes before and teams were willing to put up with his crap longer
Let's not get into a game of semantics and what you view as a veteran or not. Quintero was on the 2014 World Cup team and has played in some friendlies under Pekerman. There really is no one else Pekerman trusts that could have been called up instead. You and others bring up his playing time issues and as I said before, he is coming in off the bench and is looking pretty good with his passes and with his rhythm that changes match tempos once he steps on the field. Pekerman thinks he can provide the same thing off the bench in these friendlies. If he does not... ... then he blew his chance and he probably won't be called up again. Time will tell, but let's see how it plays out before we call him Pino.
Not just Quintero. Pekerman has a few guys in this situation that he still has a hard on for.... I mean I get it if it was Falcao, Cuadrado, Ospina or James are they are irreplaceable..... but Quintero?
This is the first time he has been called up since what? 2015? He just wants to give him a chance because he obviously liked what he provided River. And Cardona was an idiot. And Cuadrado is injured.
Estoy con CRZD, Quintero es un mediocre. Yo no admiro la mediocridad.......Un tipo que no le importa estar meses sin equipo, sin entrenarse. Ahora no tiene fisico para jugar 90 minutos. Puede que vaya al mundial, marque.......pero seguira siendo un mediocre, un mal profesional como en toda su carrera. Un tipo que representa mas los viscios historicos del futbolista colombiano, que las cosas buenas. No lo convocaria.
You are giving good reasons why he should not start. You are even giving good reasons why he should not be on the 2018 World Cup roster. The problem you have here is that you are not giving any good reasons as to why he should not be on this March Friendly roster and be given a chance to be looked at in training with the other players who have been called up. You are also no providing me any good reasons at to why he won't be able to cone off the bench in one of these matches and provide what Pekerman asks of him (creativity, passing and a dis-balancing rhythm.)
I would gave a chance to a younger guy, starter with less vicious: for example benedetti. A player with mediocre performances imho shouldnt be never on the nt. That is for me.
That is a bad reason for me and obviously for Pekerman. He said to Quintero that the door was open for him to try and get on the team again. He was a man of his word.
Why is a bad reason? because you dont like. OK So for Pekerman, in the team can play mediocres players, players with few minutes and non professional players. Not in my team, im sorry.
Bringing in the newest young flavor of the month into camp over a player he made a promise to is not the best option in my eyes. It is a different philosophy and vision as I said before. I just happen to think that Quintero has proven at River than he can provide somethings off the bench that can be beneficial for the team late in games. Obviously Pekerman believes this too. Let's see if Quintero does his thing or if he plays down to your expectations. That I think we both can agree is still up in the air. We don;t know the future.
I think the frustration lies in what's the end game with Quintero. His :15-:20 minutes on the field has more potential to lose the ball and have a counter-attack play than he is at unlocking a game with his predictable shot. It's a gamble to call up any player but it's short sided to call a player that has been underperforming and that has more risk than payoff. We're not a small side with no options. I can imaging there's really no time to incorporate a new player (say Benedetti) into the NT structure. But with Quintero it's a fool's bet because he will only give you :10-15 minutes with some possible flare? It's Pinto's version of his game plan when it was all about "fouling Bustos" so he can score a goal. It worked short term but how did that turn out long term? If Pekerman is so convinced why didnt he have him as a regular when he was "in form" and actually scoring goals with DIM. I feel the same about Gio. Two guys that have no appetite for being the best they can be and that's just not good enough for a top NT. Lastly, let's assume JFQ has the spot secured because Pekerman trusts his magic feet. Than that likely means one of these 3 will be out of the final roster: Muriel, Izzy, Chara. I would take any of those 3 in a heartbeat.