Juan Carlos Osorio - news & comments

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by crzdcolombian, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hey Pepino o algun hincha de Millos no me hab respondido, uds estuvieron bajos en contrataciones en este semestre pero es porque estan cuadrando la parte financiera no? Supuestamente pal prox semestre van a tener una suma importante de dinero no?
     
  2. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    El problema es que entre las políticas del club hay un tope salarial(30 millones de pessos al mes por jugador máximo) y solo se contrataron jugadores que pidieron de sueldo menos que el tope.....se supone que cada semestre va subiendo el tope dependiendo de los resultados......pero viendo los resultados este semestre contratando, no creo que vayan a ser tan estrictos con eso, considerando que se va a jugar sudamerica......los dts que suenan para la otra temporada son hugo sanchez, osorio y gameto.....y de jugadores johnnier montaño y otro del alianza argentino
     
  3. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Me parece lo correcto, dentro de 1 o 2 años los veo compitiendo en las contrataciones, si son inteligentes le van a apostar a las inferiores. A lo bien me siento emocionado por verles el desarollo, creo que con Osorio seria lo mejor
     
  4. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    Bogota
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Uy que se van a traer esa mentira de Hugo Sanchez.
     
  5. corazonazul

    corazonazul Member

    Jun 29, 2007
    canada
    hahahah q ************ el gamerro o algo asi no era el de chico ? me parece buen tecnico aunque muy lloron y creo que es hincha de millos no ?
     
  6. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Si era el del chico, el costeño y partcipo en la 13 de millos
     
  7. fireEagleCuauhtemoc

    fireEagleCuauhtemoc www.twitter.com/alonsobueno1

    Jul 23, 2007
    chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  8. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He is not doing well at all at Nacional but he wants to be the NT coach the only way he is going to do that is by winning in Colombia. I like the Osorio - Nacional, Torres - Millos feel they can at least bring a Sudamericano to Colombia
     
  9. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You guys think he will leave Nacional after the season is over? Or stay and try to keep winning titles so they have to give him the NT once Pekerman leaves?

    I think he would be better off going to coach abroad and doing well to get his name out there when it comes to NT coach time. Tho I can't see us getting a inexperienced NT coach unless he goes to River and wins the Copa Lib and Sudamericana. Then goes to Europe in the next 2 seasons.

    The NT job is going to be Ruedas, Bielsa or a former Brazilian or Uruguayan coach.
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  11. Neymadres

    Neymadres Member+

    Jan 29, 2013
    So CaL
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He's referred to Juan Cambios Osorio in the BS Mexico forums
     
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  12. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The Mexicans are overreacting. So far Osorio is doing well if we judge him according their results, or someone there thinks that Mexico is the favorite to win every Int'l tournament...The forgot how they struggled few years ago to qualify to the WC. In the Gold Cup he played with his B team and arrived the semis. He will be in Russia and reached the Confederations semis...So he likes to rotate, big F deal.
     
  13. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    That 7-0 loss to Chile really turned the tide. He rotates constantly, pretty much every position and plays guys in positions that they're not accustomed to. In club play, that rotation and accommodation can make sense as clubs play a lot more games and are also together much more than NT play. It would frustrate the crap out of us if we saw him rotating out/in James and Falcao and Ospina. Otherwise, I do agree. They have lofty expectations but forget they compete mostly in Concacaf.
     
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  14. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The lost to the only 3 good teams they played but those 3 teams are much better on paper. Croatia has a sick team and come on Best team in South America and best team in the world beating you isn't that bad. But I like that their fans are unrealistic and demand a lot. We are happy With a tie against Venezuela that lost to everyone
     
  15. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Jamaica is better???
     
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  16. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    We're not mad because we lost to those three teams, we're mad for how we lost. Those teams have dominated the games in quite a hardcore way and that's because the horrible tactical decisions he's made, like playing against Germany without a true defensive midfielder (he didn't even bring one to the cup), improvising a CB (who isn't even among the 5 or 6 CB's in Mexico) as a FB, playing a Giovanni does Santos who is on the worst form of his career over better players like Marco Fabián and more egregious of all, leaving the team's best player (Carlos Vela) on the bench to force a CF as a winger (which is Vela's best position) for who knows why. And that kind of shenanigans are constant.

    Who would want a coach that tactically cripples his teams that way game after game after game? Honestly his saving grace has been the WC qualification campaign and that has been more thanks to having the most talented roster in the region and that the teams from the area are on a downward trend.
     
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  17. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Because you guys crippled teams in past right?

    JCO should just complete his contract and never look back again. Ungrateful fan base, terrible media analysis.
     
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  18. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Have you even seen how Mexico plays with him?
     
  19. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Most talented roster in the history of football you mean
     
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  20. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Ehhh, no.

    It is one of the most talented rosters Mexico has ever had, though.
     
  21. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm not really looking to create a forum war, so I'll just say this once.

    I've seen Mexico play, I know it's not the prettiest. However I don't agree with the majority of his critics, I think it has to do more with the quality of players rather than the style of play. Frankly I believe Mexico needs to keep improving on bringing in better young talent at the domestic Level to replenish aging stars.

    Yes this applies to Colombia as well.

    Sincerely, Tio
     
  22. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    this is where Mexico fans can get a bit carried away. They have ALWAYS been the best in class in their region...in fact, unlike Conmebol (who aren't the best model) and most regions, Mexico has been the only one carrying the torch for generations in their specific region.
     
  23. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I know he likes to rotate, I know that it's less appropriate in NT level. I myself didn't like him at the beginning. But like I said, you cannot agree with results and even though the 7-0 was awful, it was vs. a better team then Mexico. So again, he will be in the WC, he reached the Confederation Cup semi final and reached the Gold Cup semi with the B team. I don't think that he should've achieved more then that. Maybe in the Gold Cup but again, it wasn't his strongest squad, not even close. The fans and mostly the media, need to calm down. The best proof is the backup that he receives from the FMF.
     
  24. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    7-0 is the teams fault not the coachs fault. The team just gave up after the 3rd goal and Chile kept attacking. Mexicans like Colombians have shit mentality. That Copa America we got raped by Paraguay was Pinto was shitty but also the team just spread their legs and allowed themselves to get rammed in the ass
     
  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What an stupid example

    So argentina , Brasil , Spain have shit mentality because the have been humiliated recently and in history ....by similar results


    When a coach destroyed a match ,..players get frurstrated no matter his mentality or quiality

    Barca and Madrid have been humilated too by bayern, between them ...so mourinho have a shitty mentality too..and Guardiola ...and cr7 , Messi , iniesta



    Pd: so Messi have shitty mentality because he received 6 goals in Bolivia


    In the case of Colombia, do you think that if you use Vallejo , arizala , viafara, Edixon Perea were national team players
     
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