Josh Wolf injury...

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nobody, Aug 15, 2002.

  1. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Josh left the Chicago game against KC with a knee injury. I read on another board that it may have been an ACL. Does anybody know any other details?
     
  2. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    your best bet will be to pay attention to the fire forum


    so far two chicago newspapers have basically said this... however, it will not be confirmed until later today or tomorrow
     
  3. Solskjaer

    Solskjaer New Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    Eau Claire, WI
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It has, unfortunately, been confirmed...it is an ACL according to Soccer America's MLS confidential.
     
  4. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    That sucks big donkey balls. However, he's still only 25 so he should be able to get over it. Mathis, Wolff, myself(definitely not comparing my soccer ability to these guys). Either we all have physical structures that place extreme loads on the ACLs or extremely bad luck. My guess is that it's a genetic thing related to hip width. Women athletes have lots of knee injuries also and their hips are generally much wider than males.

    Any orthopedic specialists want to chime in with their two cents? Is there any way to prevent these types of injuries? I'd like to know for my future son's sake.
     
  5. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    while no specialist i can tell you what i have heard from 3 different doctors in relation to acl injuries (due to the fact that i, my father and my brother (twice) have all torn the acl and had surgery) and they said that although not proven through any study it is widely thought that genetics do play a role in acl injuries...something about the way the inside of the knee is shaped in a slightly different way, at least that is what our 3 doctors have said.
     
  6. David Allan

    David Allan New Member

    Apr 5, 1999
    Southeastern PA
    Is an ACL injury inevitable? There was talk of Wolff being traded to the MetroStars right before Wednesday's match. If he had not played, would he have done his ACL anyway in the next game or two? IOW, is this an injury that develops with time, or does it occur based upon a specific movement?
     
  7. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Specific movements, basically-- although there are some types of ACL injuries that are "wear and tear"-related as well.

    Based on the release from the Fire, it wasn't the first time he had done the same knee.

    http://www.chicago-fire.com/pressbox/pressrelease/releasetext.asp?prID=1113

    And for that matter, same thing with Clint Mathis last year, when he did his ACL. So that might have some bearing or influence as well, over the course of time.

    Mind you, I'm no specialist in the field of orthopaedic medicine, either... so take my comments with the obligatory grain of salt.

    Cheers,
    William
     
  8. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    IMHO you read that press release wrong. It said that he had the same injury in his left knee, that doesn't mean that he did his left knee again. AFAIK it's his right knee this time. Since he's in midseason shape his cardiovascular health should allow him to recover quickly. He came back pretty fast from that one in '99.

    Fidlerre, you're the man. Hopefully they'll come up with a way to prevent these injuries in the future...at least they've developed an incision that doesn't damage the nerve as much near the knee and thus a person doesn't lose the sensation of feeling his knee in space as badly.
     
  9. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    when your acl is replaced, whether is it with part of your own patella tendon, hamstrong or a corpse's acl...the new acl is regarded as being stronger than the original acl god gives you at birth, especially if you use the patella tendon in the replacement.

    for you to tear a replaced acl takes a tremendous injury, and when it does happen it is very rare or it happens in somebody who never took the time to fully rehabiliate the knee once surgery is complete.

    in both wolff's and mathis's case they tore the other acl...which in the case of serious athlete's is all too common b/c of the stress the that non-repaired knee takes post-surgery. despite the long rehab of the knee and its apparent health, the *good* knee tends to compensate much more than you would think and over time that can take it toll.
     
  10. Well Im no specialist either but ACLs are part heriditary. Depending on the shape of the knee and such. Some people are just more prone to it, especially being an athlete. The way you can look at it....if you tear one, it might be wear and tear, a freak accident...etc. If you tear both thenits likely you were more prone to it..especially wear and tear wise.
     
  11. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks, Wanderer. You and Fiddlerre caught my errors... such is what happens whenever I'm attempting to post in the late-night hours over here. :eek:

    It is indeed Wolff's right knee this time around-- and as far as rehabbing the torn ACL on the opposite knee, wouldn't the recovery time be quicker and more comprehensive? Going purely on logic here, given the fact that the athlete (as was the case for Mathis last year, and now with Wolff) knows what is involved in the rehabilitation procedure, and thus has a certain mindset in which to approach it? This is something I've always been curious about...

    Wanderer, I'd have to agree with you on another aspect, that based on Wolff's ACL experience three years ago, that he is a fast healer, and we all can hope he can make a complete recovery in time for the start of next season.

    Cheers,
    William
     
  12. kasai

    kasai New Member

    Jul 15, 2002
    California
    He needs to rehab it to 100% so he won't worry about the knee. Once you have had a major injury, you tend to lay off that part of the body. That is not the way football players operate.
     
  13. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    The pain for the first week after surgery is still pretty much the same IMHO. I've done both, and the second one was just as hard as the first to get over. The internal bruising is what made my second one so damn hard. But then again I was never in the shape that Mathis was and Wolff is.
     
  14. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
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    Wolff, no. Mathis yes!
     
  15. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    I wouldn't even have put myself up there with Mathis' fitness level, Bruce! :)
     

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