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  1. reddevilmike

    reddevilmike Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My two cents: if I was a writer who had written something noteworthy, I'd want people to know that it was my work 1) to get proper credit and 2) so that a reader could perhaps look into other things I've written if they liked the original piece he or she read. That's how you develop a reputation and a following.
     
  2. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #227 Ashur, Aug 18, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2016
    Your points are well taken, even if I can't help but chuckle at your cheap insults, yet you're not looking to start an argument or bait me in some obvious fashion. Right.
    Anyway, as I've mentioned I think it's pretty obvious that I don't make an habit to post articles without their original point of reference. The bottom line however is that some people need to revise their sense of perspective. I did not insult, verbally attack, consciously offend or look to demean anyone. I posted a couple of articles without including the link to the original article and I certainly did not look to pass it off as my own.
    And half a day and a couple of pages later, this is where we are. Seriously, we're going to make a mountain out of a mole hill over this and start talking as if some major or outrageous incident just occurred.
    Good to know and glad we're on the same page here....
     
  3. Pulp

    Pulp Member+

    Feb 13, 2013
    TO / CA
    Jeez, this guy.
     
  4. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes indeed, but I'm not the one flipping the eff out over the posting of a couple of articles with no links. Weight it and check yourself, hombre... :thumbsdown:
     
  5. Pulp

    Pulp Member+

    Feb 13, 2013
    TO / CA
    Don't have a cow man.
     
  6. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    bingo.

    it's been a thing for years - no posting of full articles with or without sources and always link
     
  8. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    This is the dumbest back and forth, about the dumbest subject.


    TOS? FOH...[emoji18]
     
  9. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    naboo is too kind to ashman
     
  10. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I look forward to the next point of contention. My favorite color perhaps? :whistling:
     
  11. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I wonder how many times you've broken TOS?

    This time I'm not even defending Ashur as I find what he does funny to. I just can't understand why you guys are making a big deal of this.


    I do similar shit all the time. I post articles and the like without links and I've never once been bitched at.
     
  12. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You post before at least. You don't just post nothing but a 100% copy with zero context.
     
  13. Red Jeph

    Red Jeph Member+

    Aug 26, 2006
    Chicago
    Many forums are pretty strict about this because it's a liability for them. It's clear copyright infringement so if it happened often enough someone might decide to go after them. Also, it's a shitty thing to do.
     
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  14. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    It really is. What's so surprising about this is that the remedy is so simple, painless and sensible.
     
  15. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Smdh.... That's right: it's a "shitty" thing to do. The lack of perspective round here is truly befuddling. Talk about amping up the drama here. There's no ill or foul design at play here.
     
  16. nimma

    nimma Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 5, 2006
    India
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Because the site could be accused of Plagiarism. And I don't remember seeing you copy paste. Its just wrong.

    Its not too hard to just paste a link is it? And the way it was pointed out wasn't even vicious.
     
  17. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Probably never for something that could get the site taken down or sued.

    As for why he is getting shit? Because someone pointed out something in a calm and restrained manner and as usual he acted like a child. It gets old.
     
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  18. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    thanks nimma. it wasnt my intent. i noticed a couple of posts without a source and given he posts links all the time it just flashed across my mind that he might have written them. i was just wanting to know the source of what i am reading.

    as an aside, i dont care about TOS (though some do), but the source is important for me personally because different sources carry different weight.

    anyway no drama intended. sorry i brought it up.
     
  19. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You get how serious plagiarism is though, right?
     
  20. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    To be fair johno, check the thread and look at his response.
     
  21. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Right, so stop responding to him then if that's how you feel.
     
  22. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    What's the rule on photos then?
     
  23. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #248 Ashur, Aug 19, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2016
    As simply as I can say it, I think this bullshit. A) I'm not passing other people's work as my own or evenimplying it in any way b) I'm certainly not trying to make any financial gain or profit on the work of others.
    So yeah, while I implicitely understand what plagiarism, it simply does not apply here.
    I have for the most part posted links to articles that I post and will do so whenever applicable, because God forbid, I don't want to bring this whole ********ing place down....
     
  24. nimma

    nimma Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 5, 2006
    India
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The rules are not specific. They are generic i.e. there are no seperate rules for photos. It all comes under 'Content'.

    Quoting only the relevant bit here.

     
  25. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Please note that I quoted @nimma who is appropriately tagged in this post but i omitted some of his original post and replaced with some words of my own most notably "but this is blown way the ******** out of proportion"
     
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