Jonathan Klinsmann at St.Gallen (Switzerland)

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  1. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And in our spare time we are even halfway decent footballers.

    And Id also bet the beetle was build in Murica
     
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  2. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actual kids these days aren't even millennials any more! The people who arbitrarily brand generations are going with Generation Z.

    I think generational cohorts tend to blame younger generations for being worse at certain things, while being blind to the areas where the new generation is better. Since they old generation can't see the positives and can only see the negatives, they just figure the new generation is lazy. A tale as old as time.

    Some things that make me feel old:
    • A significant number of high school kids weren't alive when 9/11 happened.
    • If they made a "That 90s Show" this year, it would be equally distant from the 1990s as "That 70s Show" was from the 70s when it first came out
     
  3. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Wherever it was built the engineering is shit.
     
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  4. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All this talk about age is making me fee old. Can we please stop?

    And the fact that the coach called him "too American" is being blown a bit out of proportion. Every person is different, and being an American soccer player is different than being a German one. So what.

    What matters is whether or not Jonathan can adapt to this new environment and continue to grow as a player. I guess he's having some struggles in some ways, and for whatever reason the assistant called him out publicly for it. YMMV on whether or not that is a professional thing to do, or an effective motivational tactic.

    What doesn't matter is a comparison of average hours worked, or whether or not German products are well-made, or whether Americans talk too much at work.
     
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  5. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Try listening to your local oldies radio station
     
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  6. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    So does he have a working knowledge of German? Surely the club gives him a tutor to help him out. I can't imagine every player at the club speaks it fluently.
     
  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The best engineering doesnt help if it ends up getting produced on a Monday in Chattanooga

    Mr. Daimler? You're working too much!

     
  8. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He at least understands German well enough to reply in English

     
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  9. Diegan

    Diegan Member+

    San Diego FC
    United States
    Sep 18, 2008
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your trains are falling apart. And not content to have them just screw up in Germany, you guys have started sending them to Switzerland to derail as well. Your infrastructure projects, especially Berlin's new airport, reek of corruption and inefficiency, and your military's shiny new destroyer was so incompetently designed and engineered that it literally cannot be deployed. The reason you have less hours is actually good, but it's not because Germans are efficient. It's because Germany is one of the only countries that realizes that the nature of employment is changing, and that in order to keep everybody employed it's important to spread the jobs between people. But far from leading to more efficiency, it has done the opposite. For the sake of economic stability I hope you can figure it out and give others an example, especially the Norwegians because they're even more hopeless.
     
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  10. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know it and never said I did. Merely surmise ("my take") on my part.
     
  11. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, generalizations, while not being accurate for everyone (and, hence, not being politically correct) are usually based on at least some fact, Have a look at this table from Wikipedia that shows estimate worker efficiency in various nations. The top 10, the right side score = GDP/worker hr in 2013.
    1 [​IMG] Norway 75.08
    2 [​IMG] Luxembourg 73.22
    3 [​IMG] United States 67.32
    4 [​IMG] Belgium 60.98
    5 [​IMG] Netherlands 60.06
    6 [​IMG] France 59.24
    7 [​IMG] Germany 57.36
    8 [​IMG] Ireland 56.05
    9 [​IMG] Australia 55.87
    10 [​IMG] Denmark 55.75
     
  12. PhillyFury

    PhillyFury Member

    Slavia Prague
    United States
    Jan 1, 2004
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting. Obviously factors like population give Luxembourg and Norway a big boost. At the risk of offending someone, the data would seem to suggest the French are harder working than the Germans. Hm, that's err....debatable...
     
  13. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Well, as an engineer and someone who does all his own auto work, I can tell you engineering is the bigger problem in this case.
     
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  14. KicksNgiggles

    KicksNgiggles Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    BHM
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's a radio..??
     
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  15. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope JK gets more minutes this summer o drops a level or two or something... still so young for a GK.

    Also, I love Germany, Berlin is maybe my favorite city in the workd, but these German posters are turning me sour sheeeeesh
     
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  16. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    FWIW, the bundesliga pundit on The Football Show this morning said Hertha has a history of knocking it's youngsters down a peg or two.
     
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  17. adi21

    adi21 Member

    The ones that have Americans starting
    United States
    Mar 17, 2001
    Maryland
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This know it all is feigning ignorance , don't bother .
     
  18. adi21

    adi21 Member

    The ones that have Americans starting
    United States
    Mar 17, 2001
    Maryland
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then don't build it there and put your name plate on it.
     
  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    is that a podcast or a series? is it available for torrent?

    I always wanna see highlights of weekly Bundesliga matches but I can't seem to find any in English
     
  20. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yeah that is why your president is complaining about all those foreign cars in your streets and Detroit is a shambles
     
  21. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    I am not sure that numbers of this type mean much in terms of how hard workers in different countries work. Even if workers in Vietnam (and many other developing countries) work 24 hours a day and 7 days a week, they will not generate numbers like these in the near future.
     
  22. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    At least we're not talking about median IQs yet.

    Internet nationalistic confrontations _always_ end with median IQ tables.
     
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  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Do people actually know their own IQs? If you do...why?
     
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  24. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    I wasn't trying to stand up for American automotive engineering. I drive a Nissan - best vehicle I've owned by a landslide.
     
  25. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    It's a daily soccer show on SiriusXM's soccer channel.
     
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