Joe Havelange: 66 and 74 World Cups were fixed to favor the home team.

THey should have fixed 70

bitches

 

I know that refs can be incompetent, but this is absurd.

 

Funnily he WAS Fifa president when the 1974 WC was being played...So why didn´t he do something about it then?

And is it a coincidence that he doesn´t mention any of the "scandals" that happended during his leadership?...The financial collapse of ISL that forced Fifa to beg Uefa for money to survive for example

 

so the conspircy theories are true...

 

More than interference from the refs there was a clear interference in the selection of referees. The refs chosen had an interpretation of the law that clearly did not favor Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. That they were all of the same nationality makes it even more obvious.

 

There are always sifferent standards in all countries and no doubt the refs where not syncronized rulewise...

I mean a player like Ronaldinho in the Scottish league would be a wheelchair case because someone would chop him down within seconds.

 

26/06/2008 22:20 1966 & 1974 World Cups Were Fixed - Former FIFA President

Former FIFA President Joao Havelange has made some quite sensational, and potentially damaging, allegations by claiming that the 1966 and 1974 World Cups were fixed so that England and Germany would win respectively.

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The 1966 World Cup held in England has been the centre of a number of conspiracy theories over the years. These include England’s quarter final victory over Argentina when the hosts won 1-0 after the South Americans had seen their captain Antonio Rattin controversially handed a straight red card for arguing with the referee.

It has been claimed that there was a plot for England to win the World Cup, and the referee from this game was German, while the official in Germany’s quarter final win over Uruguay was English. The controversy continued in the final with Geoff Hurst’s famous ‘was it over the line?’ goal.

Joao Havelange, who was FIFA President from 1974 until 1998 is certain to have further fuelled these conspiracy theories by openly stating that the 1966 and ’74 World Cups were fixed.

"In the three matches that the Brazilian national team played in 1966, of the three referees and six linesmen, seven were British and two were Germans," Havelange told Folha de Sao Paulo.

"Brazil went out, Pele ‘exited’ through injury [following some rough defensive play], and England and Germany entered into the final, just as the Englishman Sir Stanley Rous, who was the President of FIFA at the time, had wanted.

"In Germany in 1974 the same thing happened. During the Brazil-Holland match, the referee was German, we lost 2-0 and Germany won the title," said Havelange.

"We were the best in the world, and had the same team that had won the World Cup in 1962 in Chile and 1970 in Mexico, but it was planned for the host countries to win.”

World Cup hosts have been at the centre of many conspiracy claims over the year. In 1978 Argentina needed to beat Copa America holders Peru by four clear goals to reach the final ahead of Brazil. They won 6-0 but their were dark rumours that Peru, who had an Argentine-born goalkeeper, had thrown the game. Meanwhile in 2002, minnows South Korea were at the centre of similar claims as they finished fourth after seeing a host of dubious decisions go their way in the victories over Italy and Spain.

 

So if Evil Joao can claim that these two WCs were fixed, who is to say he didn't fix any to favor Brazil, or disfavor Argentina(1990)...?

 

Using Havelange's logic here, can we not say thst the 2001 Champions League must have been fixed? Real Madrid were obviously the best team as they had won in 2000 and would win again in 2002.

He should also get his facts correct about the nationality of the officials.

From RSSSF:

BRA - BUL 2:0 (1:0)

(-48000) Tschenscher GER, McCabe ENG, Taylor ENG

HUN - BRA 3:1 (1:1)

(+52000) Dagnall ENG, Howley ENG, Yamasaki POR

POR - BRA 3:1 (2:0)

(+62000) McCabe ENG, Callaghan WAL, Dagnall ENG

 

...except that he didn't. Rattin had already been booked for a foul on Bobby Charlton.

It just comes across as bitter ramblings by a guy unable to accept that his team didn't win.

 

that home teams are often favored isn't a surprise, it has to do with the crowd etc.etc.

I don't doubt for a second that european teams received th benefit of the doubt and some extra help during these world cups, but that doesn't mean they were fixed. Argentina-Peru, that was fixed

 

Santacroce and Lavezzi thumbs up!

 

for Argentina in 1978 there is the story about the drug test one on randomly selected Argentinian, which revealed that not only did his urine sample come back clean, but also revealed the further good news that he was pregnant.

I'm looking for evidence that the story is an urban myth, but haven't been able to find any.

 

If you're looking for something definitive you won't ever find it. But those who think that the game was fixed are going on more than a hunch homie

 

To expand on this. The selection of the refs and the performance of the refs in 1966 caused so much flack that there were various changes to the way reffing is done in a World Cup. The most obvious change was the use of red card and yellow cards due to the infamous sending off of the Argentinian Rattin. Now, refs meet to agree on interpretation.

But let's be real, everything indicates that ref selection was managed to favor England, North-European teams and European teams in that order and to disfavor Brazil and South American teams.

 

Argentina were their own worst enemies in '66. Their tactics against W Germany in the first round (especially Albrecht who must have believed he was playing rugby) were pathetic.

Indeed. His comments about Brasil being best in '74 are totally laughable. They got to the 2nd round with 0-0 draws against Scotland and Yugoslavia and a 3-0 win against "mighty" Zaire. They then got taken apart by Cruyff's superb Dutch side and had Perreira sent off for one of the worst tackles I've seen at a WC.

 

I think this was a reaction to what happened in '62 and in particular the "Battle of Santiago". Can't defend the refereeing in '66 though, it was poor at best in terms of both consistency and stopping foul play. And of course at that point there was a huge gulf between European and South American interpretations of the laws.

As to Ramsey's "animals" remark, Argentina's players smearing the walls of their dressing room with excrement was apparently what caused him to make that remark.